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1 Responding to Pro-Gay Theology
A Look At The Scriptures Part 2 The New Testament Passages

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5 Gay Christian Movement
1. God loves us too ( ) 2. God approves of our being gay ( ) 3. Anyone saying we can’t be gay and Christian must be confronted ( Present)

6 "I have learned to accept and even celebrate my sexual orientation as another of God's good gifts."   Mel White Stranger at the Gate (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1994), p. 311.

7 Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
Began 1968 12 people in Rev. Troy Perry's living room in Huntington Park, California Today 43,000 members and adherents in almost 300 congregations in 22 countries

8 “What influences lead us to new ways of understanding Scripture?
New scientific information, social change, and personal experiences are perhaps the greatest forces for change in the way we interpret the Bible and develop our beliefs.” Don’t Be Afraid Anymore (New York: St. Martins Press, 1990), p

9 The Clobber Verses OT Genesis 1:27-28; 2:18, 23-24
Genesis 19:4-9; Judges 19:22-25 Leviticus 18:22; 20:13

10 Genesis 1:27-28; 2:18, 23-24 Does not forbid homosexuality
Pro-Gay Argument: Does not forbid homosexuality Response: It is the original pattern established by God It is a pattern Jesus acknowledged It is the pattern of Jesus & the Church

11 Genesis 19:4-9; Judges 19:22-25 Pro-Gay Argument:
Ezekiel 16 states inhospitality was the sin. Rape not love relationship Response: Inhospitality & acts called abomination were sin Mob militancy shows strong perverted passion

12 Leviticus 18:22; 20:13 Pro-Gay Argument: Idolatry not homosexuality because of technical religious word “abomination” Response: “Abomination” is used many times in non religious terms. Context shows that it is not just a religious practice but condemned practice

13 The Clobber Verses NT Romans 1:26-27 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:9-10

14 Romans 1:18-21 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

15 Romans 1:22-25 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.    24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.    

16 Romans 1:26-27     26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.    

17 Romans 1:28-32     28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

18 Romans 1:24-27 Traditional Position:
Paul views homosexuality as a symptom of fallen humanity, describing it as unnatural and unseemly.

19 Romans 1:24-27 Pro-Gay Argument 1:
Paul is not describing true homosexuals; rather, he is referring to heterosexuals who, as he says "exchanged natural relations." The real sin here is in changing what is natural to the individual.

20 Romans 1:24-27 Response: 1a There is nothing in his wording to suggest he even recognized such a thing as a "true" homosexual versus a "false" one. He simply describes homosexual behavior as unnatural, no matter who it is committed by.

21 Romans 1:24-27 Response: 1b In this context, Paul is very pointedly saying the homosexual behavior committed by these people was unnatural to them as males and females (arsenes and theleias ). He is not considering any such thing as sexual orientation. He is saying that homosexuality is biologically unnatural-not just unnatural to heterosexuals, but unnatural to anyone.

22 Romans 1:24-27 Pro-Gay Argument 2: Perry states:
This scripture describes people given over to idolatry, not gay Christians who worship the true God. Perry states: The homosexual practices cited were believed to result from idolatry and are associated with some very serious offenses as noted in Romans 1. Taken in this larger context, it should be obvious that such acts are significantly different than loving, responsible lesbian and gay relationships seen today. [Don’t Be Afraid Anymore p. 84]

23 Romans 1:24-27 Response: 2a Paul begins Romans by describing humanity's rebellion and decision to worship creation rather than the Creator.

24 Romans 1:24-27 Response: 2b The general rebellion created the environment for the specific rebellion. A person need not bow before a golden calf to participate in the general human denial of God or to express that denial through specific behaviors.

25 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

26 1 Timothy 1:8-11 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.

27 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Traditional Position: "Them that defile themselves with mankind" comes from the word Greek word arsenokoite, meaning "homosexual." Paul is saying homosexuality is a vice excluding its practitioners from the kingdom of God.

28 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Pro-Gay Argument 1:
'Arsenokoite' is a word coined by Paul. It never appeared in Greek literature before he used it in these scriptures. There were, at the time, other words for "homosexual." Had he meant to refer to homosexuality, he would have used one of the words already in existence. Most likely, he was referring to male prostitution, which was common at the time.

29 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Paul coined 179 terms in the New Testament.
Response: 1a Paul coined 179 terms in the New Testament. The terms do not, because they are original, significantly change the context of the verses in which they appear.

30 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Response: 1b
Paul coined this one, considering he derived it directly from the Greek translation of the Old Testament (the Septuagint) (LXX): meta arsenos ou koimethese koiten gyniakos (Lev 18:22) hos an koimethe meta arsenos koiten gynaikos (Lev 20:13)

31 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Response: 1c
Paul coined this one, considering he derived it directly from the Greek translation of the Old Testament (the Septuagint) (LXX): meta arsenos ou koimethese koiten gyniakos (Lev 18:22) hos an koimethe meta arsenos koiten gynaikos (Lev 20:13)

32 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Response: 1d Paul adopted the term arsenokoite directly from the Levitical passages-in the Greek translation- forbidding homosexual behavior. Though the term is unique to Paul, it refers specifically to homosexual behavior.

33 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Response: 2e
As for the inference that it applies to male prostitution, a breakdown of the word shows it implies nothing of the sort. 'Arsene,' always refers to "male." 'Koite' appears only twice in the New Testament, and means "bed," used in a sexual connotation:

34 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 'Koite' means "bed," used in a sexual way:
Response: 2e 'Koite' means "bed," used in a sexual way: Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality [koite] and debauchery... (Rom 13:13) Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed [koite] kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. (Heb 13:4)

35 Conclusion The Bible lists homosexuality activities as sin God desires to redeem sinners by His grace We should pray for present the love of the Lord to people caught in the deception of our age that they may come to surrender to the way of the Creator


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