January 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda

January 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 January 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Donald Eastlake 3rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Taipei, Taiwan 14-17 January, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola Technical Editor: Vacant Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P802.11-07/2933r10 The Howard Plaza Hotel, Taipei, Taiwan
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Venue The Howard Plaza Hotel, Taipei, Taiwan Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

General Flow of the TGs Meeting
January 2008 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Go to Letter Ballot? Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 14 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Monday, 14 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2 Call meeting to Order Temporary Secretary selection Dee Denteneer Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Agenda Approved by unanimous consent Approval of Minutes: November 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/2826r1 Approved by unanimous consent Teleconference Minutes Approved by unanimous consent: 21 November 2007, 11-07/2934r0 9 January, 11-08/41r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

January 2008 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Miscellaneous Announcements
January 2008 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Affiliation It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Automated Attendance Recording
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Monday, 14 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2 Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot Draft D1.07 “Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, 11-07/23r51 Changes adopted to D1.07 not in 11-07/23r51 Date Submission Title 11/15/2007 11-07/2839r3 Key Usage Update on Peer Link Management 11/15/2007 11-07/2882r0 Editorial Fixes for TGs D1.07 11/14/2007 11-07/2855r0 A More Efficient KDF 11/14/2007 11-07/2816r0 Minor Text Updates for Abbreviated Handshake Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/82r0 “Mesh QoS Control”, Alexander Safonov (LG), 11-08/0068r0, 11-08/0069r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Monday, 14 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2 “Peer Service Period”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/103r0 Straw Poll: What is the most useful peer service period type(s) to include in s? (Unidirectional) Peer Service Period: 0 Bi-directional Peer Service period: 2 Both: 7 “Power Save in Mesh”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/102r0 Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Monday, 14 January :30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2 Call meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/108r0 “Suggested resolution text relating to sync, APSD, etc”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/107r0 “Improvements to Power Savings”, Michelle Gong, 11-08/110r0 Recess until 8:00 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 15 January 2008 8:00-10:00, Banquet Room III, B2
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Tuesday, 15 January :00-10:00, Banquet Room III, B2 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Interest in subgroups: Gen 1, MAC 10, RFI 0, Sec 2 Subpoll: Power Save 9, Other MAC 4 Divide into ad hoc subgroups Power Save – Jarkko Knecht MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda Security – Jesse Walker Reconvene, Reports Security: Have proposed resolutions for all remaining Open comments in 11-08/127. MAC: Have been working on submission 11-08/108. Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Tuesday, 15 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2 IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Suggested resolutions to remaining security comments”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/0127r0 “Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, Tony Braskich, 11-07/2037r1 Interest in subgroups: Power Save: 8, Other MAC 3 Divide into ad hoc subgroups Power Save – Jarkko Knecht MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Tuesday, 15 January :00-18:00, Banquet Room III, B2 IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/108r2 “Suggested resolution text relating to sync”, APSD, etc”, 11-08/107r0 “MDA MIB variable”, 11-08/117r1 “Peer Service Period”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/103r1 Divide into ad hoc subgroups Power Save – Jarkko Knecht MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Tuesday, 15 January :30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2 IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder “Mesh Regulatory Class Switch”, Alexander Safonov, 11-08/0072r1 The 3 Open RFI comments and the General CIDs 98 and 3847 were considered and TGs came up with tentative resolutions for them. Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 16 January 2008 8:00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Wednesday, 16 January :00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2 IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations: “Password Authenticated Key Exchange”, Dan Harkins, 11-08/45r1 “Key Hierarchy Nonce Removal”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/27r0 Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/0027r1, “Key Hierarchy Nonce Removal” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. Adopted by unanimous consent. “Mesh Key Deletion Clarification”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/128r0 Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-07/2037r1, “Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, resolving CIDs 1345, 1614, 1615, 1616, 2975, 4750, & 4758, and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Guenael Strutt Yes: 7 No: 3 Abstain: 6 (fails < ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Wednesday, 16 January :00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2 Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/0127r0, “Suggested resolutions to remaining security comments” except those for CIDs 1345, 1614, 1615, 1616, 2975, 4750, & 4758. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Guido Hiertz Yes: 9 No: 0 Abstain: 5 (passes > ¾) “Five Comment Resolutions”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/140r0. “Text Updates for Binding of Peer Link and Security Association”, Jesse Walker, 11-08/119r0 “Suggested resolution text relating to mesh beaconing behavior”, Michelle Gong, 11-08/147r0 Divide into ad hoc subgroups: MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda Security – Jesse Walker Reconvene Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Wednesday, 16 January :30-15:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2 IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to adopt 11-08/0072r2 “Normative Text for Mesh Regulatory Class Switch”, direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft, and resolve CIDs 1370, 1642, 1916 and 2040. Moved: Alexander Safonov Seconded: Jarkko Knecht Adopted by unanimous consent. Moved, to adopt the resolutions to CIDs 98, 3639, 3847, 4380, and 4411 in 11-08/140r0 “Five Comment Resolutions” and direct the Editor to incorporate the change resolving CID 3847 into the Draft. Moved: Guido Hiertz Seconded: Jan Kruys Adopted by unanimous consent Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Wednesday, 16 January :30-15:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2 Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/119r0 “Text Updates for Binding of Peer Link and Security Association” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Moved: Michelle Gong Seconded: Malik Audeh Adopted by unanimous consent “PSK related comment resolutions”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/159r0. “More on Performance of Express Forwarding in Mesh”, Mathilde Benveniste, 11-08/142r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Wednesday, 16 January :30-15:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2 “Peer Service Period for s”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/162r0 “Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/108r4 Recess until 15:00 Moved, to adopt the comment spreadsheet changes in 11-08/159r0 “PSK Related Comment Resolutions”. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Dee Denteneer Adopted by unanimous consent. Adjourn until 10:30 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Thursday, 17 January :30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2 IPR and Attendance recording reminder Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/0128r1, “Mesh Key Deletion Clarification” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. Moved: Seconded: Yes: No: Abstain: Moved, to adopt the normative text in 11-08/147r0 “Suggested resolution text relating to mesh beaconing behavior” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Thursday, 17 January :30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2 Moved, to adopt the normative text in 11-08/107r0 “Suggested resolution text relating to sync, APSD, etc.” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Moved: Seconded: Yes: No: Abstain: Moved, to adopt the normative text in 11-08/117r1 “MDA MIB Variables” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/108r4 “Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Thursday, 17 January :30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2 Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft (12:00 or later) Moved, to adopt the normative text in s-combined-power-save-normative-text “Power Save for s” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Moved: Seconded: Yes: No: Abstain: If the above motion fails: Moved, to adopt the normative text in 11-08/162r1 “Peer Service Period for s” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Moved, to adopt the normative text in r0 “Mesh Power Save Normative Text” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft. Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Submissions to be Presented
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Submissions to be Presented 11-08/168r0 Mathilde Benveniste Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Thursday, 17 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2 IPR and Attendance recording reminder (15:00) Moved, to amend the Draft by replacing the definition of “mesh point (MP):” with the following: An IEEE QSTA that supports mesh services Moved: Seconded: Moved, To adopt all Open comment resolutions marked with proposed resolution of Accept, Counter, or Reject in 11-07/23rTBD. Discussion and Votes re Process “TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/TBDr1 Moved, to Close all remaining open comments in 11-07/23rTBD with the disposition Reject and the Resolution Note “TGs believes that it needs additional input through a WG Letter Ballot.” Technical Editor Selection Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 17 January 2008 13:30-15:30, (cont.)
doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 Thursday, 17 January :30-15:30, (cont.) Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the Working Group: “Moved, to authorize a 15-Day Procedural Letter Ballot to approve sending s Draft D2.0 to 30-Day Letter Ballot.” Straw Poll: If we pass Letter Ballot, does TGs want D2.0 to be available for purchase from IEEE? If we do not go to Letter Ballot: Straw Poll on when to hold teleconferences: Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences from January through March meetings, starting 1 August through 26 September, Wednesdays, except during face to face meetings, at TBDam/pm. Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again? Other Technical Presentations Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Reference Information]
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 November 2007 [Reference Information] Updated version at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.07: 11-07/23r51: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93 Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based: 11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs 11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) 11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s 11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope 11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists 11-04/662r16: Usage Models 11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
January 2008 doc.: IEEE P /2933r10 January 2008 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0 February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0 January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0 November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0 November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1 Recent Teleconference Minutes 26 September 2007, 11-07/2617r0 10, 17, 24, 31 October 2007, 11-07/2638r0, 11-07/2650r0, 11-07/2666r0, 11-7/2698r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

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