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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
November 2015 Meeting Dallas, Texas, USA Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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<month year> doc.: IEEE <doc#> Overview Officers TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe Task Groups Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey IoT TG Chris DiMinico 34 Voting Members Agenda: r2 Meetings for the Week Monday PM2 Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM2 Review manual attendance Procedure for members <author>, <company>
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Agenda - 24-15-0031-02-0000 Tim Godfrey, EPRI 1 Monday PM2 session 2
1.1 Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum Godfrey 5 4:00 PM 1.2 Approval of Agenda 4:05 PM 1.3 Introduction/meeting objectives 4:10 PM 1.4 Approve September minutes ( ) 4:15 PM 1.5 Review action items from previous meeting 4:20 PM 1.6 Begin business 4:25 PM 1.7 ITU SC1 Question 236 Review/Response ( r1) 30 1.8 Smart Grid Whitepaper Companion Presentation (review action items and section assignments) 4:55 PM 1.9 Recess 5:25 PM 2 Tuesday PM2 session 2.1 Call to Order IoT TAG business DiMinico 2.2 P2413 Liaison Report Winkel 15 2.3 Discussion of IEEE 802 Co-Sponsoring with P2413 Nikolich/Godfrey/DiMinico 2.4 Review and plan IoT white paper development 4:50 PM 2.5 5:20 PM 3 Wednesday PM2 session 3.1 Call to Order Smart Grid TG business 3.2 Discussion of establishing Liason with P2030.5 10 3.3 Development of Sub-1 GHz White Paper 3.4 TAG Business 4:40 PM 3.5 Complete the Liaison to IIC that is pending from August. DiMinico/Godfrey 20 3.6 Approval of Liaison Requests ( TAG motion(s) to ExCom) 5:00 PM 3.7 Update on IEEE 802 Student Paper Contest - review flyer, announcement process, form paper review & judging team Gilb 5:10 PM 3.8 Review action items from current meeting 5:40 PM 3.9 Adjourn 5:50 PM Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. This slide set is available at March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee
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Administration Attendance take on IMAT Web page Mailing list
Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page Mailing list (voters list) Document archive IEEE 802 announcement reflector, Send to with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Action Items from September
Carry Over: Ludwig: provide paragraph on Coexistence in global bands and global regulatory aspects. Yongho Seok: summary of ah Done Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Monday: 802.24.1 Tasks ITU SC1 Question 236 Review/Response
Forward document to Ben Kunal Approved unanimous Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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September Output Initial comments posted in document: sgtg tag-comments-on-report-itu-r-sm smart-grid-utility-management-systems-docx Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Remaining actions for SG Companion Presentation (24-14-0035-08)
Slide 12: 802.1X Security. (Need a person to volunteer) Slide 13: Security Slide 14: Tero? Security Tim Security – Apurva Non Mains and LP applications - Chris Calvert Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Items Development of sub 1 GHz White Paper
Scope Presentation r1 Outline: r1 Draft: r0 Integrate SGIP PAP2 Matrix reduced for Sub 1GHz r1 Review new contributions Integrate into draft Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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White Paper Companion Presentation
Current version: sgtg-consolidated-white-paper-presentation.pptx Action Items to completion: Slide security overview (Bob M) Slide X overview (Mike Seaman?) Slide security overview Slide Security (Tero?) Slide Security Slide Security (Apurva?) Slide 18 Non Mains and Low Power Applications Slide 30 TVWS Standards Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Monday: 802.24.2 Tasks 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Items
Development of sub 1 GHz White Paper Scope Presentation r1 Outline: r1 Draft: r0 Integrate SGIP PAP2 Matrix reduced for Sub 1GHz r1 Review new contributions Integrate into draft Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Tuesday IoT Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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802 / P2413 Co Sponsor P2413 is seeking co-sponsors – should IEEE 802 be a co-sponsor? What are the possible benefits and downsides (if any) First Steps (regarding our existing liaison): Liaison letter to P2413 to make it clear /IoT should be kept in the loop regarding any IEEE IoT related activities Liaison ensures full and complete sharing of all information between 802 and P2413 Could be or all 802 WGs Note: P2413 is an entity based group – only released drafts can be forwarded through a liaison. It is not automatic. P2413 is creating one document. Can base transfer on when P2413 thinks a consolidated draft could be shared with a broader audience. Is more collaboration possible beyond the liaison? Conclusion – remain with Liaison, but no need for co-sponsoring Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Wednesday Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Sub GHz White Paper Outline in 24-15-0009-02-sgtg Author Assignments:
g (SUN) Overview Steve Pope 802.11ah (S1G) Yongho Seok m (TVWS) Kunal Shah, Ben Rolfe 802.11af (TBD – Rich Kennedy?) Tuncer Baykas Apurva Mody Sub-1GHz Applications Jeritt Kent (incorporate SG-NET material?) Coexistence (TBA) Global regulatory environment John Notor? Contributions were requested by end of August 2015 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Liaison with P2030.5 Further development based on adoption of Smart Energy Profile 2.0 (SEP 2.0) Revision project underway CCBs – things that need to be fixed IEC PC118 adopted OpenADR IEEE and IEC have dual logo program – not appealing to IEC – slow progress w.r.t P2030. CA Rule 21 is driving interest in P for control of smart inverters Revision will include necessary changes Future revision could address PC118 Liaison Role Topics for P can be forwarded through P drafts can be shared in private area for 802 members Bob Heile is volunteered as liason. Motion requests the establishment of a liaison with IEEE P for the purpose of sharing information and recommendations regarding the revision of the P standard and other matters as appropriate. Moved: Ben Second Bob H 8 : 0 : 0 Bob will present to next meeting in December Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Wednesday TAG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Liaison Approvals Formation of Liaison with Industrial Internet Consortium (IIC) Motion to approve the liason response in document liaison-response-to-iic.docx. Moved Chris Second James Approve 11 : 0 : 0 TAG Motion – external to ExCom Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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802 Student Paper Competition
This is an 802 competition, hosted by First Task: Decide on topic or set of topics (802.1 & .3 are welcome to contribute also) Regulatory (TVWS, cognitive radio, sensing metrics, etc) (James Gilb) Implications of LBT rules in regulatory domains, techniques for spectrum sharing (Ruben S) New ideas for standards or amendments (Steve Pope) History and implementation of security architecture (Demir) Improving Humanity through Technology (Steve Pope) Announce call for topics on reflector Coordinate and delegate to Susan Tatiner to plan, review, and provide broader exposure when the contest is announced (e.g. create a flyer and advertisement campaign on ieee.org) Topic abstracts due End of August Describe what the “judges” will be looking for Post abstracts to Reflector Selection of first competition topic to be made in September Send out to EC ballot Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Student Paper Contest: Plan
Described in EC Schedule Everything drafted and ready for October EC conference call. Flyer Completed Announce to Public in November Papers Due March 1, 2016 Judging Committee selects winner March plenary Winners announced after March plenary Winners attend July plenary Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Student Paper Contest Actions From September
Flyer Completed student-paper-competition-flyer.pdf Ready for Announcement this week Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Judging Committee: Call for Volunteers
Judges: Any voting member of any IEEE 802 WG Form the Program Committee Chair of PC runs the selection of judging Tim, Ben, James, Put out call for judges on reflector Promotion ideas Globecom in San Diego Announcement of approval to distribute (Friday) EC Reflector and reflector (Tara will handle within IEEE) Request those who distribute to notify us on who was notified (professors, etc) Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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802.24 TAG closing Any New Business?
Capture action Items from this meeting Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Next Meeting of 802.24 January 18-20, 2016
Hyatt Regency Atlanta, GA, USA An 802-hosted interim with all WGs Task Groups meeting Smart Grid TG IoT TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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Adjourn Tim Godfrey, EPRI
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