1. AS9104-3 Report July 18, 2012 Minneapolis, MN

2. Team Members Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures Jeff Wood
Rick Downs, Cessna-Textron
Ian Folland
Tony Marino, Boeing
Ian Dummigan
Dominique Thiault
Lisa Greenleaf
Jeffery Long, UTC (Pratt & Whitney)
Reg Blake, IAAR
Shuji Komori
Giuseppe Leoni
Kimberly Spurlock
Ron Tharach
Frank Phillips, RABQSA

3. New Auditor AA Authentication AEA Authentication/Work Experience based
4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits 2 audits may exclude design (7.3)
QMS Lead Auditor course
AQMS Foundation Course (AATT)
Audit Competency Demonstration
CB Process or }Industry confirmed
AAB Process
AEA Authentication/Work
Experience based
4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits within 3 yrs 2 audits may exclude design (7.3)
QMS/AQMS Lead Auditor course
Industry required course(s) 3 yrs
2/10 years ASD experience minimum
Technical Competence evaluation
Auditor Competency Demonstration after successful technical evaluation

4. AEA Authentication / Auditor experience based
150 on-site audit days of an AQMS in
5 yr or on-site audit days of an AQMS in yr Equivalent to full time relevant full time exp. @ 2.5/5 days/Mo.
Auditor competency evaluation
Technical Competence evaluation
Re-authentication every 5 yrs
Re-authentication
Every 5 yrs
Same criteria as initial authentication
Attendance at one SMS auditor workshop during re-authentication period
Decision made by AAB, no SMS concurrence
Suspension / Withdrawal
Not fulfilling AS9104-1/3 reqmts
AQMS authentication contains false info
Falsified audit findings
Actions that would bring ICOP into dispute
Not informing AAB of a previous rejection, suspension, or withdrawal from another AAB
Decision for suspension, AAB will determine conditions of suspension

5. Additional Document Contents
Evaluator Qualification
Auditing experience will be 2nd or 3rd party audits only
Training Provider Requirements
Auditing Competency requirements
Technical Competency Requirements
Professional Development for Aerospace Auditors
Industry review of applicant documentation prior to concurrence
CB or AAB competency process (confirmed by industry)

6. Focus Going Forward
Define process for how authentication will work – Will Tate, lead; Mike Gusha and Reg Blake team members
Requirement for training providers and instructors – Ron Tarach, Kimberly Spurlock, Norikazu Tsuchiya, Alex Chong, Dominique Thiault
Detailed requirements for the professional development section for aerospace auditors – Linda Price, lead; Alex Chong and Rick Downs, team members
Relook at the industry –specific course for additional definition and or requirements: – Ron Tarach, Kimberly Spurlock, Alex Chong, Linda Price, Ian Folland
Refine auditing/technical competencies (review and modify existing list) – teal Lead – . Will Tate, Andre Lacroix, Usman Hag, Chris Hughes, Alex Chong

7. Next Steps
Monthly telecon with all team members
Sub teams (Book Bosses) meet more frequently
Work with sector Civil authorities relationship teams to promote the auditor competency model in proposed AS9104-3
Survey sample population of auditors on topic of Prof. Development
AATT Training
What can be improved going forward in development
Rewrite evaluator criteria to include section 5.4.1a&b requirements of AS9104/1
Book Boss section drafts need completion
SAE Editor will be brought in early to facilitate Draft completion
Target ballot able draft by October IAQG Meeting.

8. Questions and Thoughts