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TGn Opening Report – September ‘05
doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 TGn Opening Report – September ‘05 Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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This Opening Report 05-0854 Administrative Intro
September 2005 doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 This Opening Report Administrative Intro Attendance server Is not available Mark attendance at registration desk Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
September 2005 doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – May 2004 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
September 2005 1. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Additional Guidance After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
September 2005 Attendance, Voting & Document Status If you have Attendance questions during the session talk to Harry Worstell Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector – see Harry Worstell – Make sure your badges are correct Make sure your submissions contain no company logos or advertising Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Attendance Recording -802.11
September 2005 Attendance Recording A sign-in sheet will be located at the 802 Concierge desk Each member must sign-in “once” (1) per day, between the hours of 0800 and 1700 local time Participants must “sign” their name in the appropriate place and state of attendance for that day in terms of AM1/AM2, PM1/PM2, EV1 (if an evening meeting exists) Only “sign-in” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for and other participate. Attendance will be checked against other 802 groups. Those found abusing the honor system will loose ALL credit for that day. These sheets are provided daily. If you don’t sign up during the “regular sign-in” hours, you will NOT be given credit for that day. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 TGn Quick Review of July ’05 Meeting in San Francisco, California, USA Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Plans for July Initially reused Agenda for January as a place holder
September 2005 doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 Plans for July Initially reused Agenda for January as a place holder Which in rough outline form was: Now to July Update technical proposals posted by 10 days prior to July meeting questions Single Stream adhoc teleconferences every 2 weeks beginning June 6 In Session July 18-22 Proposal presentations Q&A Elimination vote Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Procedure from doc.: IEEE 802.11-03/665r9
September 2005 Procedure from doc.: IEEE /665r9 Step 16: Rounds of voting will be held that successively eliminate one candidate proposal at a time. On each round of voting, the candidate proposal that receives the least number of votes shall be eliminated from consideration. In the event of a tie for the least number of votes, a separate vote shall be held to select which of the candidates receiving the least votes shall be eliminated in the current round. The other candidate(s) shall remain for the next round. Between rounds of voting, presenters will again have the opportunity to merge proposals and/or make technical changes to their proposals. If a merger occurs or if technical changes are made to a proposal, all presenters shall have the opportunity to present the details of their proposal again. If two or more proposals are left, time permitting and at the discretion of the TGn Chair there may be a Panel Discussion with all the remaining Presenters. The rounds of voting will continue until only one candidate proposal remains. The order in which the proposals are eliminated will be recorded in the minutes. This ordering will serve as the ranking of the eliminated proposals needed in step 18. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Selection Procedure (continued)
September 2005 Selection Procedure (continued) During steps 9, 16 and 18, mergers will be allowed between remaining proposals, and between remaining proposals and proposals that have been eliminated. Mergers will not be allowed between eliminated proposals only. The TGn chair will provide an opportunity for the task group to decide by simple majority whether proposals that have merged or that have technical changes require normal time for consideration prior to a down-selection vote (4 meeting hours) or require extended time. Time extension beyond 24 hours shall require support of 2/3 of the voting members present. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Motion: Moved: Because the TGn selection process allows proposals to ask for time to complete mergers prior to consideration, M&T&W are granted time to complete a merged Joint Proposal (JP) that will replace the current three remaining TGn proposals. The time line is: July 2005: Provide time this week (ref 5557R0 Bruce’s opening report) for these groups to go work on this effort. Sept 2005 JP draft will be provided to TGn; Q&A sessions on JP to that time. November 2005: JP replaces current 3 proposals; Confirmation vote on JP. Vote: 195/2/3 Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Motion on adding FR10 and FR11
September 2005 Motion on adding FR10 and FR11 Motion: adopt new revision of document n-functional-requirements containing the following changes: addition of FR10 and FR11. FR10: Existence of single spatial stream transmission modes Requirement: Proposal shall define single spatial stream transmission modes that provide at least one mode of operation that supports a maximum throughput of at least 50 Mbps in a 20MHz channel as measured at the MAC data SAP. FR11: Interoperability with single spatial stream non AP stations A .11n AP or STA shall interoperate with a single spatial stream entity defined as a non-AP STA that complies with the .11n proposal with the exception of only supporting single spatial stream transmission modes as required by FR10. Vote: 110/0/7 Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September Agenda Plan Between now and September
doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 September Agenda Plan Between now and September No teleconference calls for SS or CA will be needed Partial merged proposal draft posted to server & announced on reflector by Monday Sept 12 Question submission via Thursday Sept 15 Responses will be presented beginning Monday Sept 19 September Meeting Plan (Monday = September 19) Merged proposal Presentation & Discussion Coexistence Assurance status update Review Document linkage for changed FR Formulate and Consider WFA liaison request Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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New Documents posted during July ’05 meeting
September 2005 New Documents posted during July ’05 meeting Submissions r0 TGn Sync, WWiSE, MitMot Opening Report r0 TGn Sync, WWiSE, MitMot Closing Report r0 Single Stream ad hoc minutes of July 18 r5 Single Stream ad hoc group r2 Experiments with an 11n radio test bed r1 Soft Detector for n r1 TGn Opening Report r0 TGn July Minutes r0 TGn Closing Report Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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July TGn Minutes 05-665r0 September 2005 Executive Summary
Proposal Updates were received from MITMOT ( r0), TGn Sync ( r13) and WWiSE ( r1). Formal announcement to merge by MITMOT-TGn Sync-WWiSE (MTW) was made. MTW opening report ( r0) gave their time line goal as: July – Formal announcement of Joint Proposal (JP) team and activities Sept. – Draft JP Nov. – JP for Confirmation Vote MTW closing report ( r0) updated progress and process. Coexistence Assurance ad hoc committee gave a verbal update and will not be having CCs between July and Sept. meetings. Single Spatial Stream Devices (S3D) ad hoc committee completed its work (see r5) and will not be having CCs between July and Sept. meetings. One of the alternatives to modify the FRs proposed by S3D was adopted namely - FR10 and FR11 were created to reflect the requirements of S3Ds and facilitate interoperability testing by WFA. The Functional Requirements (doc r13) were updated. Two technical presentations were received: “802.11n Radio Test Bed” from UCLA (doc r2) “Novel Soft MIMO-OFDM (802.11n) Receivers” from Un. of Utah (doc r1) Agenda for September will include a progress report from MTW (to be put on .11n reflector Sept.12) and time for Q&A. Also, in Sept. a motion will be made to form a liaison with WFA to facilitate interoperability testing of .11n devices. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Approve Minutes Motion to approve July TGn minutes as contained in r0 Move: Second: Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Plans for September Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 – September 2005 Agenda Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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TGn – Initial September Schedule
Meeting Room: Grand A – South Tower Sep 19 Sep 20 Sep 21 Sep 22 Sep 23 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 8:00-10:00 X 6 10 10:30-12:30 2 8 12 13:30-15:30 4 16:00-18:00 14 19:30-21:30 am 1 am 2 pm 1 pm 2 eve Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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802.11 - September Agenda 0814 r1 September 2005
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TGn – Revised September Schedule
Meeting Room: Grand A – South Tower Sep 19 Sep 20 Sep 21 Sep 22 Sep 23 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 8:00-10:00 X 10:30-12:30 2 6 13:30-15:30 4 16:00-18:00 8 19:30-21:30 am 1 am 2 pm 1 pm 2 eve Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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TGn - September Schedule
Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday 8:00-10:00 X 10:30-12:30 Opening, Agenda Minutes, Merger Status CA & SS status Merger Report & Status Q&A 1:30-3:30 Presentation 4:00-6:00 Timeline Plans for Nov Any other business 7:30-9:30 Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Any other Presentations Any other business
September 2005 Any other Presentations Any other business Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Approve Agenda Motion to approve September TGn agenda as contained on slide 23 of this document. Move: Second: Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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New Documents posted between July ’05 & Sep meeting
September 2005 New Documents posted between July ’05 & Sep meeting Submissions r1 TGn Sync, WWiSE, MitMot JP Report r0 TGn July Minutes r0 TGn Closing Report Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Joint Proposal Status Report 05-0876 r1
September 2005 Joint Proposal Status Report r1 Collaborative status presentations from proposal groups: WWiSE TGnSync MITMOT Jon Rosdahl, et al questions Questions from the floor Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Questions Given the current joint proposal status , can we still expect a complete draft to be posted before the November meeting? Is there anything the chair or membership can do to further expedite or facilitate the process? Was the pause for merger the correct decision? What happens if the merged proposal is not completed on time? Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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FR 10 & 11 Status Update and plans - Marc September 2005
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Coexistence Assurance
September 2005 Coexistence Assurance Status Update and plans - Sheung Continuing Review of Other Wireless Technologies in sessions – all in South Tower, Valencia Meeting times – Mon 2:30-3:30, Tues 8:00-6:00 Technologies this week include: a (Zigbee, et. al.) a (Ultrawideband) Continuation of earlier cordless phone presentations Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Presentation 05-0923 r2 Wireless VoIP Eldad Perahia, Brett Douglas
September 2005 Presentation r2 Wireless VoIP Eldad Perahia, Brett Douglas Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Topics for Thursday Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Timelines Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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11n - Overall timeline 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 September 2005 HT SG
Formed Publication PAR Approved TGn Formed ExCom RevCom Stds Brd Approval Selection Process & Criteria First Sponsor Letter Ballot Call for Proposals First WG Letter Ballot First Proposal Presentations Down Select Joint proposal Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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.11n Technical Editor Election
September 2005 .11n Technical Editor Election Technical Editor election postponed until a confirmed proposal exists From May meeting: Move to delay the technical editor election until a proposal is formally confirmed. Move: Adrian Second: Sean Approved by unanimous consent Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 End of Opening Report Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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TGn Thursday September 22
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TGn - September Schedule
Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday 8:00-10:00 X 10:30-12:30 Opening, Agenda Minutes, Merger Status CA & SS status Merger Report & Status Q&A 1:30-3:30 Presentation 4:00-6:00 Timeline Plans for Nov Any other business 7:30-9:30 Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Joint Proposal Status Report 05-1001 r0
September 2005 Joint Proposal Status Report r0 Status presentations from Joint Proposal group: Intro: Jon Rosdahl PHY: Aon Mujtaba, Jim Petranovich MAC: Matt Fischer, Adrian Stephens Questions from the floor Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Time Line Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Timelines Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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11n - Overall timeline 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 September 2005 HT SG
Formed Publication PAR Approved TGn Formed ExCom RevCom Stds Brd Approval Selection Process & Criteria First Sponsor Letter Ballot Call for Proposals First WG Letter Ballot First Proposal Presentations Down Select Joint proposal Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Balloting to Publication Process (part 1)
September 2005 Balloting to Publication Process (part 1) Draft 1.0 Complete Nov’05-Jan ‘06 Submit documentation to 802 ExCom Submit documentation to RevCom Standards Board Approval Conduct WG Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Letter Ballot Completed No Approved? Yes Sep ‘06 Sep ‘06 Conduct Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution Sponsor Ballot Completed No Approved? Yes Jan ‘07 Publication Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Balloting to Publication Process (part 2)
September 2005 Balloting to Publication Process (part 2) Draft 1.0 Complete Submit documentation to 802 ExCom 30 days prior to Plenary Submission ExCom June, Jul 17-21, 2006 Oct, Nov 13-17, 2006 Feb, Mar 12-16, 2007 May, Jul 16-20, 2007 Letter Ballot Submit documentation to RevCom 40 days prior to Standards Board meeting sequence Submission RevCom Stds Board August 4, Sep Sep 16, 2006 Feb 9, Mar Mar 22, 2007 April 27, Jun Jun 28, 2007 Aug 17, Sep Sep 27, 2007 Sponsor Ballot Publication (+30 days) April ‘07 Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Process Backup Material
September 2005 Time Line Process Backup Material Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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RevCom (Standards Review Committee)
September 2005 RevCom (Standards Review Committee) All requests for approval of a standard shall be reviewed by RevCom prior to submission to the IEEE SA Standards Board to ensure that the submittal is complete and that appropriate IEEE procedures are followed completely and correctly (see the IEEE-SA Standards Board Working Guide for Submittal of Proposed Standards). The IEEE-SA Standards Board has assigned to RevCom the review of standards submittals and the responsibility for recommending final approval to the IEEE-SA Standards Board. Approval or adoption of a standard requires a consensus of RevCom that the requirements of the procedures of RevCom and those of the IEEE-SA Standards Board (IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws and IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual ) have been satisfied. Specifically, this means that the final results of the ballot and statements submitted by balloters who participated in the development of the standard indicate that consensus has been achieved and unresolved negative ballots have been properly considered, together with reasons why the comments could not be resolved. All IEEE standards shall be approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board prior to publication. Approval requires a majority vote of the IEEE-SA Standards Board . 3 Meetings per year : March, June, September Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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IEEE-SA Standards Board
September 2005 IEEE-SA Standards Board The Board consists of no fewer than 18 nor more than 26 voting members, who are Members or higher grade of the Institute. A liaison from the IEEE Technical Activities Board serves as a voting member. Nonvoting members who may attend meetings include two Members Emeriti. David J. Law Daleep C. Mohla Paul Nikolich Ted W. Olsen Ronald C. Petersen Gary S. Robinson Frank Stone Malcolm V. Thaden Richard L. Townsend Joe D. Watson Richard V. Cox, Member/TAB Rep Jay Forster, Member Emeritus Joseph L. Koepfinger, Member Emeritus Richard DeBlasio, DOE Representative Alan H. Cookson, NIST Representative Satish K. Aggarwal, NRC Representative Chairman: Steve M.Mills Vice Chairman: Richard H. Hulett Past Chairman: Don Wright Secretary: Judith Gorman Members: Mark D. Bowman Dennis B. Brophy Joseph Bruder Bob Davis Joanna N. Guenin Mark S. Halpin Raymond Hapeman William B. Hopf Richard H. Hulett Lowell G. Johnson Hermann Koch Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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NesCom (New Standards Committee)
September 2005 NesCom (New Standards Committee) This committee examines PARs and makes recommendations to the IEEE-SA Standards Board regarding their approval. responsible for ensuring that proposed standards projects are within the scope and purpose of the IEEE, that standards projects are assigned to the proper Society or other organizational body, and that interested parties are appropriately represented in the development of IEEE standards. The NesCom secretary is Jodi Haasz. Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 November Plans Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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November 14-18, 2005 Vancouver Agenda Plan
September 2005 doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 November 14-18, Vancouver Agenda Plan Between now and November No teleconference calls for SS or CA will be needed No teleconferences or interim meetings of TGn will be needed Merged proposal draft posted to server & announced on reflector by Monday, Nov 07 (1 week prior to meeting) Questions submitted via by Thursday Nov 10 Technical Proposal and Responses will be presented beginning Monday Nov 14 November Meeting Plan (Monday = November 14) Merged proposal Presentation & Discussion , Q&A 1st Confirmation vote, “no” vote explanations & remedies if <75% “yes” Technical Editor Election Coexistence Assurance status update Review Timeline Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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TGn – Suggested November Schedule
September 2005 doc.: IEEE /0854r3 September 2005 TGn – Suggested November Schedule Nov 14 Nov 15 Nov 16 Nov 17 Nov 18 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 8:00-10:00 X 4 10 10:30-12:30 6 16 13:30-15:30 8 12 18 16:00-18:00 2 14 19:30-21:30 am 1 am 2 pm 1 pm 2 eve Time not available Bruce Kraemer, Conexant Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Any Other Business? Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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September 2005 Motion to Adjourn? Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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