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1 Robert Moskowitz, Verizon
September 2011 Project: IEEE P Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Submission Title: KMPIG Agenda Okinawa 2011 Date Submitted: September 19, 2011 Source: Robert Moskowitz, Verizon Address 1000 Bent Creek Blvd, MechanicsBurg, PA, USA Voice:+1 (248) , Re: KMP IG Opening Report for September 2011 Session Abstract: Opening report for the KMP IG Session. Purpose: To focus activities during the meeting Notice: This document has been prepared to assist the IEEE P It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor acknowledges and accepts that this contribution becomes the property of IEEE and may be made publicly available by P Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

2 KMPIG Agenda / Opening Report
September 2011 KMPIG Agenda / Opening Report Okinawa September 19, 2011 Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

3 Abstract To provide for a Key Management Protocol for 802.15.4
September 2011 Abstract To provide for a Key Management Protocol for Be KMP agnostic Provide guidelines for specific KMPs like HIP, 802.1X, and IKEv2 To present use scenarios and how a KMP facilitates security in those scenarios. Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

4 September 2011 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

5 Attendance Register Indicate attendance September 2011
Register Indicate attendance Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

6 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
September 2011 All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

7 Patent Related Links September 2011 Robert Moskowitz, Verizon
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

8 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
September 2011 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

9 Minutes Review and vote on July 2011 minutes
September 2011 Minutes Review and vote on July 2011 minutes hip-hipig-minutes-for-july doc Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

10 Goals Produce a Recommended Practice Dependencies
September 2011 Goals Produce a Recommended Practice Use 'existing' frames to carry KMP Avoid long time line for amendment Dependencies TGi, TG4e Information Elements

11 September 2011 Patents Certicom has submitted IPR on IETF ID 5201-bis (HIP- BEX): One claim has been addressed in latest draft. Do not know of impact on HIP DEX Robert Moskowitz, Verizon

12 Discussion Base scenario – Static star, KMP at join
September 2011 Discussion Base scenario – Static star, KMP at join What frames carry KMP? Assume IEs via 4e BEACON PANs – ASSOCIATE BEACONLESS – DATA What frames carry KMP updates? End to End KMP?

13 Discussion Mesh via multiple controllers End to End KMP?
September 2011 Discussion Mesh via multiple controllers End to End KMP? Only deal with 1st hop as multiple controller PANs will have higher layer transport in place already

14 Discussion Information Elements How many IE IDs needed?
September 2011 Discussion Information Elements How many IE IDs needed? One! If only one IE per packet What is max size of value pre 4g? What is max size post 4g? How to support chaining IE format for support Frame flow for support Use of forced ACKs

15 Discussion Information Elements Other points to discuss
September 2011 Discussion Information Elements Managing retransmissions Missed ACKs? Value format If KMP designed on IP (e.g. IKE & HIP) start with IP protocol # ? Other points to discuss

16 September 2011 PAR kmp-Key-Management-Protocol-PAR.doc Can a single recommended practice by applied to 15.4, 15.6, and 15.7? Separate documents? Special text for differences for each? What will be concerns of other groups? How to ensure November approval?

17 September 2011 Next Steps How to prepare text for next session ?


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