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2-23-15 NATIONAL BANANA BREAD DAY
PROPERTY D SLIDES NATIONAL BANANA BREAD DAY
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Last Lunch Today: Meet on Brix @ 12:25
Tuesday Feb 23 Music to Accompany Ray: Barry Manilow: Summer of ‘78 (1996) Last Lunch Today: Meet on 12:25 Castillo * Clifton * Florio Kuehl * Monje J.Roberts * Sanz * Smith Dean’s Fellow This Week: Rev. Prob. 2D (Arguments from Poletown & Hatchcock) Rev. Prob. 2G (General Approach & Sample Arguments)
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Chapter 2: The Eminent Domain Power & the Public Use Requirement
Different than ConLaw I & CrimPro Issues: Not trying to reconcile cases into coherent whole Federal Rules + Separate/Different State Rules Need good working understanding of each To use on a short problem/issue-spotter To identify relevant facts on a lawyering Q To argue strengths & weaknesses on an issue-spotter Need similar familiarity with elements of AP, etc.
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Some General Concerns (can use to assess other rules in course)
Subject Matter Relevant & Important v. Irrelevant or Unimportant Restriction Necessary/Appropriate v. Too Restrictive v. Not Restrictive Enough Test is Workable v. Too Complex or Too Vague
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Chapter 2: The Eminent Domain Power & the Public Use Requirement
Federal Public Use Standards Background: Rational Basis Possible Limits from Majority/KND in Kelo State Public Use Standards Poletown Hatchcock
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Rev. Prob. 2G & Rational Basis
Means: Rationally Related to Legitimate State Purpose Essentially Complete Deference to Political Branches Considerations: Obviously a Workable Test Deference here is good because… Too much deference here is problematic because…
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Chapter 2: The Eminent Domain Power & the Public Use Requirement
Federal Public Use Standards Background: Rational Basis Possible Limits from Majority/KND in Kelo Mostly looking for evidence of corruption Very specific list of facts; no guidance on how to use State Public Use Standards Poletown Hatchcock
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Some General Concerns (can use to assess other rules in course)
Cases Where Land Ends Up in Private Hands Subject Matter Relevant & Important v. Irrelevant or Unimportant Restriction Necessary/Appropriate v. Too Restrictive v. Not Restrictive Enough Test is Workable v. Too Complex or Too Vague
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Chapter 2: The Eminent Domain Power & the Public Use Requirement
Federal Public Use Standards Background: Rational Basis Possible Limits from Majority/KND in Kelo State Public Use Standards Poletown: Looking at Extent/Weight of Public Benefit Hatchcock
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Some General Concerns (can use to assess other rules in course)
Cases Where Land Ends Up in Private Hands Subject Matter Relevant & Important v. Irrelevant or Unimportant Restriction Necessary/Appropriate v. Too Restrictive v. Not Restrictive Enough Test is Workable v. Too Complex or Too Vague
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Chapter 2: The Eminent Domain Power & the Public Use Requirement
Federal Public Use Standards Background: Rational Basis Possible Limits from Majority/KND in Kelo State Public Use Standards Poletown Hatchcock: Three Narrow Doors Through Meant to Stop Cases Like Poletown & Probably Kelo
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Rev. Prob. 2G & Hatchcock Situation #2
Cases Where Land Ends Up in Private Hands Accountability: Pros & Cons of Test Means: Private entity remains responsible to public for its use Considerations: Subject Matter Relevant & Important v. Irrelevant or Unimportant Restriction Necessary/Appropriate v. Too Restrictive v. Not Restrictive Enough Test is Workable v. Too Complex or Too Vague
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Some General Concerns (can use to assess other rules in course)
Cases Where Land Ends Up in Private Hands Subject Matter Relevant & Important v. Irrelevant or Unimportant Restriction Necessary/Appropriate v. Too Restrictive v. Not Restrictive Enough Test is Workable v. Too Complex or Too Vague
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CHAPTER 3: ADVERSE POSSESSION OVERVIEW (Continued)
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Adverse Possession: Justifications DQ3.01: AP as SoL
Purposes Behind SoL Generally (E.g., Torts/Contracts) Potential Ds: Repose Legal System: Evidentiary Problems Potential Ps: Encourage Rabbits; Punish Turtles (Don’t “Sleep” on Your Rights) Apply to Actions for Possession of Land?
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Adverse Possession: Justifications DQ3.01: AP as SoL
Purposes Behind SoL: Adverse Possession Potential Ds: Repose (Quiet Titles; Protect Investment) Legal System: Evidentiary Problems (”Prescriptive Rights”) Potential Ps: Don’t “Sleep” on Your Rights Discourage Leaving Land Unmonitored (Drugs, Dead Bodies, Al-Qaeda) Other Purposes for AP?
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Adverse Possession: Justifications Purposes Behind Adverse Possession More Broadly
Potential Ds: Adverse Possessors (APors) Repose (Quiet Titles) Reward/Protect Investment in Land Reward/Encourage Beneficial Uses Protect Psychic Connection (Holmes) Legal System: Evidentiary Problems Potential Ps (OOs): Don’t “Sleep” on Your Rights Discourage Leaving Land Unmonitored (Drugs, Dead Bodies, Al-Qaeda) Encourage/Reward OOs who send clear timely notice of interest
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Adverse Possession: Overview Justifications/Purposes: Recap
Purposes of AP Repose Like SoL Generally: Act Before Evidence Lost plus Quiet Titles; Promote Alienability/Investment Punish Sleeping OO Like SoL Generally: Discourage Sitting on Rights plus Address Social Costs of Not Monitoring Land Reward Beneficial Use/Labor by APor Protect Connection/Investment of APor
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Adverse Possession: Color of Title
Writing (Incorrectly) Purporting to Give Title Often Defective Will or Deed Need to Have Good Faith Belief in Document Significance: Makes it Easier for APors to Prove Case Examples in Readings of Rules Doing This
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Adverse Possession: Color of Title Olympic DQ 3.02
Writing (Incorrectly) Purporting to Give Title Significance: Makes it Easier for APors to Prove Case DQ3.02: Why do states have stricter requirements for AP w/o Color of Title? Reward good faith; reward better title
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Adverse Possession: Boundary Disputes v. AP of Complete Parcel
AP regarding overlapping borders, not whole lots. Most Common Type of AP Case Shows Up in Some of My Old Problems Significance: Changes Requirements/Elements in Some States We’ll Go Through Some Specifics as We Cover Indiv. Elements Won’t be Main Focus of Any Problem on Your Test
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Adverse Possession: Boundary Disputes Olympic DQ 3.03
AP regarding overlapping borders, not whole lots Significance: Changes Requirements/Elements in Some States DQ3.03: Why Treat Boundary Disputes Differently? 1. Tension re diligent owners v. friendly relations w neighbors. (Cross-Reference Easements by Estoppel in Chapter 5) 2. Maybe different expectations re OO’s diligence (Al-Qaeda & 5-foot strip) 3. Less concern about underutilization of land
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ELEMENTS OF ADVERSE POSSESSION
Our Sequence Actual Use Open & Notorious Exclusive Continuous Adverse/Hostile Panel Responsibilities Primary: Acadia Rev. Prob. 3A: Everglades (In Class Thursday)
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
1. Focus: What has APor Done on Land a. Has to be some physical possession/entry to trigger SoL b. In practice need much more to satisfy element (LMN) 2. Many State-specific legal tests/examples in materials a. In real case, check specifics in your state b. On exam: Note & Deal w Possibilities i) Lawyering Q ii) Issue-Spotter or Short Problem
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
1. Focus: What has APor Done on Land 2. Many State-specific legal tests/examples in materials Common: Version of “Use Like Ordinary Owner of Similar Property.” E.g., Ray (similar test for both Actual & Continuous) Lutz Dissent (quoting Ramapo) Common: Cultivation, Enclosure, Improvements (CEI) NY & Florida Statutes
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Cultivation, Enclosure, Improvements (CEI) Rough Definitions (can check local law) Cultivation = Growing things; some sense of crops for food or sale Enclosure = Surrounding land in Q w fences/walls Improvements (Technical Legal Term) = Substantial Building or Repairs Not Just “Making Property Better”
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Cultivation, Enclosure, Improvements (CEI) Part of DQ3.05: When statute says CEI, can you have AP if residing or operating biz from pre-existing bldg.? Probably. No FL case holds otherwise; cases fall back on “ordinary use” if no CEI In practice, CEI = steps sufficient to show “possessing” land when not actually in residence or running business
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Cultivation, Enclosure, Improvements (CEI) CEI = steps sufficient to show “possessing” land when not actually in residence or running business Likely Source: Where land undeveloped, what are beneficial uses that give notice to OO? Build Grow crops Graze animals + Enclosure (Grazing alone may not be sufficient claim of ownership)
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Fit into AP Purposes Purposes of AP Role of Particular Element Repose Triggers SoL Punish Sleeping OO Enough Activity to Give Notice to Reasonable OO? Reward Beneficial Use/Labor Type We Want to Reward? Protect Connection/ Investment Sufficient to Merit Protection?
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Easy Qs/Hard Qs Relatively Easy YES Use same as surrounding lots CEI covering entire claimed area Residing or Operating Business using Most of Parcel Relatively Easy NO: Use significantly less than surrounding lots Marginal CEI
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Adverse Possession Actual Use: Overview
Easy Qs/Hard Qs Hard Qs Not a lot of use but more than surrounding lots (Ray, Bell, Vezey) Some non-trivial CEI but incomplete/imperfect (Lutz) Rev Prob 3A (Thurs) addresses some hard Qs Qs on Overview of “Actual Use”?
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Review Problem 3A: “Actual Use” Element Everglades: Thursday
Arguments/Missing Facts? Cultivation, Improvements, Enclosure Enclosure Separately All Three Together Activity Like Owner of Similar Property? Activity Meet Purposes of AP/Actual Use? Only Doing This One Element; Assume Others Met!!
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Acadia: “Actual Use” in the Cases: DQ3.04-3.07
Acadia Sunrise
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Actual Use Element in the Cases DQ3.04: Lutz (NY 1952)
Squatters’ Garden Thrives During the Great Depression Billie Holiday Sings
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Why no focus on Charley Residing? Maybe b/c area very small Maybe b/c anticipated problem with [no] claim of title (we’ll come back to with both improvements in a couple of slides & with state of mind on Friday/Monday) Even dissent seems to focus more on cultivation So we’ll look mainly at CEI
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
If Need CEI: Enclosure: Some boundary line around garden; long row of logs & brush Not Discussed by Majority Maybe too low; maybe not complete enough Maybe not claimed by Attys
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
If Need CEI: Cultivation: “usually cultivated” Evidence Here? Why Rejected by Majority? Why Did Dissent Disagree?
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
ASIDE: Why should appellate courts defer to the factual findings of a trial court if the appellate judges believe the findings are incorrect?
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Appellate courts defer to factual findings b/c of relative advantages of trial judges (& juries): Visual Observation of Witnesses Hearing Testimony
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Ability to Hear Testimony She wants me to take her to the dance.
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
If Need CEI: Improvements (Substantial Building/Repairs) Some Small Stuff Insufficient Portable chicken coop Cutting of brush and trees Placing various rubbish on premises.
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
If Need CEI: Improvements (Substantial Building/Repairs) Some Small Stuff Insufficient Built Shack: What’s Wrong with? Garage Partly Over Boundary Line: What’s Wrong With?
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Looking at Case as a Whole Meet Purposes of Actual Use Element? Doing enough to give notice to reasonable OO? Doing enough to create connection to land? Type of use we want to reward?
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Looking at Case as a Whole Meet Purposes of Actual Use Element? Has some cultivation, some improvements, some partial enclosure Court chooses not to look at together Another court might do differently
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Actual Use: DQ3.04 (Acadia) Lutz: Garden of Great Depression
Looking at Case as a Whole Meet Purposes of Actual Use Element? Might look at CEI cumulatively Lutz in many casebooks b/c generally thought to be wrong.
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Actual Use: DQ3.05 (Acadia) Ray: Creepy Summers in Empty Resort
Evidence of Actual Use? i) Summer residence, but not emphasized by itself ii) Lower Ct: Notice of claim given by constant & conspicuous use & bounded on all sides by path, rock garden, etc. (MAF: flimsy kind of enclosure) iii) CtApp adds: Installation of utilities + Preservation of cottage (substantial structure) How Does Court Deal with CEI Requirements? Seems unconcerned w technical reqmts (cf. Lutz) Focuses instead on: Adequate to give notice (purpose) Usual acts of ownership
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Actual Use: DQ3.06 (Acadia) E. 13th St.: Coalition of Squatters
Possible Evidence of Actual Use Imagination Exercise Like Fact Research for Lawyering Q How Prove “Living” in Apts in Q?
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