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Concluding OFDMA M-BA transmission
July, 2016 Concluding OFDMA M-BA transmission Date: Authors: Name Affiliation Address Phone Zhou Lan Broadcom Matthew Fischer Sriram Venkateswaran Ron Porat Leo Montreuil Andrew Blanksby Vinko Erceg Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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2111 NE 25th Ave, Hillsboro OR 97124, USA
July, 2016 Authors (continued) Robert Stacey Intel 2111 NE 25th Ave, Hillsboro OR 97124, USA Shahrnaz Azizi Po-Kai Huang Qinghua Li Xiaogang Chen Chitto Ghosh Laurent Cariou Yaron Alpert Assaf Gurevitz Ilan Sutskover Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al .
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Hongyuan Zhang Marvell
Name Affiliation Address Phone Hongyuan Zhang Marvell 5488 Marvell Lane, Santa Clara, CA, 95054 Yakun Sun Lei Wang Liwen Chu Jinjing Jiang Yan Zhang Rui Cao Sudhir Srinivasa Bo Yu Saga Tamhane Mao Yu Xiayu Zheng Christian Berger Niranjan Grandhe Hui-Ling Lou Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Alice Chen Albert Van Zelst
Name Affiliation Address Phone Alice Chen Qualcomm 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA Albert Van Zelst Straatweg 66-S Breukelen, 3621 BR Netherlands Alfred Asterjadhi Arjun Bharadwaj Bin Tian Carlos Aldana 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA George Cherian Gwendolyn Barriac Hemanth Sampath Lin Yang Menzo Wentink Naveen Kakani 2100 Lakeside Boulevard Suite 475, Richardson TX 75082, USA Raja Banerjea 1060 Rincon Circle San Jose CA 95131, USA Richard Van Nee Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Rolf De Vegt Sameer Vermani Qualcomm
Name Affiliation Address Phone Rolf De Vegt Qualcomm 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA Sameer Vermani 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA Simone Merlin Tao Tian Tevfik Yucek VK Jones Youhan Kim Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 James Yee Mediatek
Name Affiliation Address Phone James Yee Mediatek No. 1 Dusing 1st Road, Hsinchu, Taiwan Alan Jauh Chingwa Hu Frank Hsu Thomas Pare USA 2860 Junction Ave, San Jose, CA 95134, USA ChaoChun Wang James Wang Jianhan Liu Tianyu Wu Russell Huang Joonsuk Kim Apple Aon Mujtaba Guoqing Li Eric Wong Chris Hartman Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al .
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Peter Loc Jun Luo Yi Luo Yingpei Lin
Name Affiliation Address Phone Peter Loc Huawei Jun Luo 5B-N8, No.2222 Xinjinqiao Road, Pudong, Shanghai Yi Luo F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen Yingpei Lin Jiyong Pang Zhigang Rong 10180 Telesis Court, Suite 365, San Diego, CA NA Rob Sun 303 Terry Fox, Suite 400 Kanata, Ottawa, Canada David X. Yang Yunsong Yang Junghoon Suh Jiayin Zhang Edward Au Teyan Chen Yunbo Li Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Jinmin Kim LG Electronics
Name Affiliation Address Phone Jinmin Kim LG Electronics 19, Yangjae-daero 11gil, Seocho-gu, Seoul , Korea Kiseon Ryu Jinyoung Chun Jinsoo Choi Jeongki Kim Dongguk Lim Suhwook Kim Eunsung Park JayH Park HanGyu Cho Thomas Derham Orange Bo Sun ZTE #9 Wuxingduan, Xifeng Rd., Xi'an, China Kaiying Lv Yonggang Fang Ke Yao Weimin Xing Brian Hart Cisco Systems 170 W Tasman Dr, San Jose, CA 95134 Pooya Monajemi Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Fei Tong Samsung Hyunjeong Kang
Name Affiliation Address Phone Fei Tong Samsung Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS (U.K.) Hyunjeong Kang Maetan 3-dong; Yongtong-Gu Suwon; South Korea Kaushik Josiam 1301, E. Lookout Dr, Richardson TX 75070 (972) Mark Rison Rakesh Taori (972) Sanghyun Chang Yasushi Takatori NTT 1-1 Hikari-no-oka, Yokosuka, Kanagawa Japan Yasuhiko Inoue Shoko Shinohara Yusuke Asai Koichi Ishihara Junichi Iwatani Akira Yamada NTT DOCOMO 3-6, Hikarinooka, Yokosuka-shi, Kanagawa, , Japan 3759 Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Authors (continued) July, 2016 Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al Name
Affiliation Address Phone Masahito Mori Sony Corp. Yusuke Tanaka Yuichi Morioka Kazuyuki Sakoda William Carney Minho Cheong Newracom, Inc. 9008 Research Dr, Irvine, CA 92618 Reza Hedayat Young Hoon Kwon Yongho Seok Daewon Lee Yujin Noh Sigurd Schelstraete Quantenna 3450 W. Warren Ave, Fremont, CA 94538 Huizhao Wang Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Abstract TGax Draft specification supports OFDMA transmission of Multi-STA BA for UL MU acknowledgement In this contribution we discuss Multi-STA BA related PHY frame format, allowed RUs and usages cases We propose some rules to limit the usage case of OFDMA transmission of Multi-STA BA to simplify implementation Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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PHY frame format M-BA should be PHY agnostic, it shall be allowed in any of the following PHY frame format NON-HT Duplicate PPDU HT PPDU VHT PPDU HE SU PPDU HE MU PPDU HE Trigger Based PPDU Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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M-BA on 106 tone RU for (STA 1, 2, 3, 4)
Allowed RUs Question: Do we want to allow M-BA on 26/52RU? OFDMA M-BA should be PHY agnostic M-BA can be transmitted in 26RU for single user (unicast RU) or multiple users (Broadcast RU) Allowing M-BA on smaller size RU helps to release more RU for data and Trigger Frame No technical reason observed to disallow M-BA on 26 and 52 RUs Trigger Frame UL MU frame (STA8) UL MU frame (STA7) UL MU frame (STA6) UL MU frame (STA5) UL MU frame (STA4) UL MU frame (STA3) UL MU frame (STA2) UL MU frame (STA1) M-BA on 106 tone RU for (STA 1, 2, 3, 4) HE-SIG B OFDMA PPDU of M-BA BA for STA 5 on 26 RU UL MU PPDU Trigger frame 20MHz/ 242 tones BA for STA 6 on 26 RU BA for STA 7 on 26 RU Trigger frame on 26 RU BA for STA 8 on 26 RU Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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A bit more thinking on the allowed RU
PHY motion passed regarding legacy preamble of Trigger Based HE MU PPDU UL pre-HE-STF preamble is sent only on the 20MHz-CH(s) where the HE modulated fields are located. The UL pre-HE-STF preamble includes legacy preamble, RL-SIG and HE-SIG-A and HE modulated fields refer to HE-STF, HE-LTF and data fields. [PHY Motion 154, March 2016, see 16/395] We should not allow M-BA transmission to be shifted to other 20MHz channel where its associated data PPDU is not transmitted, otherwise the M-BA transmission will not be protected from hidden node that is supposed to be muted by the preamble of the preceding UL PPDU However we should allow M-BA transmission on broader bandwidth that includes the RU of the preceding UL PPDU E.g when the preceding Trigger Based PPDU is on 20 MHz, then the M-BA should be allowed on the 40MHz channel that includes this 20MHz M-BA on broader bandwidth is partially protected by the legacy preamble of the preceding UL PPDU Low MCS and interleaving can improve the error performance when there is interference from the unprotected 20MHz M-BA for STAs 1, 2, 4, 5 in RU 1 with MCS 5 20MHz TF M-BA for STAs 3, 6 in RU 2 with MCS 0 20MHz AP HE TB PPDUs STAs 1, 2, 3 20MHz HE TB PPDUs STAs 4, 5, 6 20MHz Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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OFDMA M-BA usage case Q: Do we really want to have multiple M-BA in one DL HE MU PPDU? The whole point of OFDMA M-BA compared with OFDMA BA is to avoid PADDING So…. Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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OFDMA M-BA usage case (Cont.)
If we want to do this…(Users with similar MCS) Then why not do this? Trigger Frame UL MU frame (STA8) UL MU frame (STA7) UL MU frame (STA6) UL MU frame (STA5) UL MU frame (STA4) UL MU frame (STA3) UL MU frame (STA2) UL MU frame (STA1) M-BA 1 for (STA 1, 2, 3, 4) HE-SIG B OFDMA PPDU of M-BA M-BA 2 for (STA 5, 6, 7, 8) UL MU PPDU Trigger frame 20MHz/ 242 tones Trigger Frame UL MU frame (STA8) UL MU frame (STA7) UL MU frame (STA6) UL MU frame (STA5) UL MU frame (STA4) UL MU frame (STA3) UL MU frame (STA2) UL MU frame (STA1) M-BA 1 for (STA 1, 2, 3, 4,5,6,7,8) HE-SIG B SU PPDU of M-BA UL MU PPDU Trigger frame 20MHz/ 242 tones Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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OFDMA M-BA usage case (Cont.)
If we want to support users with totally different MCSs, then why not just use OFDMA BA like this Trigger Frame UL MU frame (STA8) UL MU frame (STA7) UL MU frame (STA6) UL MU frame (STA5) UL MU frame (STA4) UL MU frame (STA3) UL MU frame (STA2) UL MU frame (STA1) HE-SIG B OFDMA PPDU of M-BA BA for STA 5 on 26 RU UL MU PPDU Trigger frame 20MHz/ 242 tones BA for STA 6 on 26 RU BA for STA 7 on 26 RU BA for STA 8 on 26 RU BA for STA 1 on 26 RU BA for STA 2 on 26 RU BA for STA 3 on 26 RU BA for STA 4 on 26 RU Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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OFDMA M-BA usage case (Cont.)
If we have most users with similar MCS and only several bad guys, we can do this Trigger Frame UL MU frame (STA8) UL MU frame (STA7) UL MU frame (STA6) UL MU frame (STA5) UL MU frame (STA4) UL MU frame (STA3) UL MU frame (STA2) UL MU frame (STA1) M-BA on 106 tone RU for (STA 1, 2, 3, 4) HE-SIG B OFDMA PPDU of M-BA BA for STA 5 on 26 RU UL MU PPDU Trigger frame 20MHz/ 242 tones BA for STA 6 on 26 RU BA for STA 7 on 26 RU Trigger frame on 26 RU BA for STA 8 on 26 RU Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Proposed change to the current Draft
limiting the number of M-BA in DL HE MU PPDU doesn’t seem a big loss of flexibility There shall be no more than one M-BA that is addressed to multiple recipients carried in a broadcast RU of the DL MU PPDU. A HE AP should only transmit group addressed M-BA in the DL MU PPDU to HE non AP STA n on the (broadcast RU) RU (26/52/106/242/484/996) that includes the RU used for receiving the immediate preceding HE Trigger Based PPDU from STA n. Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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Straw poll Do you support to
Direct TGax Editor to add the following paragraph after the first paragraph of section A HE AP should only transmit group addressed M-BA in the DL MU PPDU to HE non AP STA n on the (broadcast RU) RU (26/52/106/242/484/996) that includes the RU used for receiving the immediate preceding HE Trigger Based PPDU from STA n. There shall be no more than one M-BA that is addressed to multiple recipients carried in a broadcast RU of the DL MU PPDU. Yes No Abstain Zhou Lan, Broadcom et al
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