1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
Sept 2018 Meeting
Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
28 Voting Members
Agenda:
Meetings for the Week
Tuesday PM Kona 3
Wednesday PM Kona 3
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3. Agenda – 802.24-18-0019r0 802.24 Agenda - September 2018, Waikoloa, HI 1
Tuesday PM2 session KONA 3
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Approve minutes from prior TAG meeting
4:10 PM
1.4
Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting
4:15 PM
1.5
Liaison Updates 10
4:20 PM
1.6
Smart Grid Task Group
4:30 PM
1.7
ITU and regulatory items
Godfrey/Holcomb 15
1.8
1.9
Discuss incoming comments from IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force regarding contribution to "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System" 30
4:45 PM
1.10
802.11ah and g (Sub 1-GHz coexistence (follow up from SG)
Godfrey/Rolfe
5:15 PM
1.11
Recess
5:45 PM 2
Wednesday PM2 session KONA 3
2.1
Call to Order Task Group
2.2
contributions to Nendica
Godfrey/Marks 20
2.3
Review editor comments and finalize Sub 1-GHz white paper for publication
2.4
Development and Editing of TSN White Paper
4:40 PM
2.5
2019 Planning
5:00 PM
2.6
Closing / Action Items / Adjourn
5:20 PM
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Tim Godfrey, EPRI

7. 802.24 TAG Approve July minutes TAG Action Items from July:
Farrokh Khatibi will provide introduction to ATIS group for liaison on classifying IoT services, and their characteristics, and communication link requirements
Establish Liaison with IEC SC25 for single pair ethernet. Chris will base on IEC SEG 8 request
Call for Comments on TSN and SPE white papers
Request Ludwig Winkel to provide P2413 Update in September
Request IoT Use Cases from Wi-Fi Alliance IoT MSTG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

8. Liaison with IEC SEG8 Scope of SEG8: Liaison Request sent to SEG8
Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures
Liaison Request sent to SEG8
Next SEG 8 meeting Sept 25-26
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

9. Tuesday
Smart Grid TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

10. ITU and Radio Regulatory Items
Update from
From May meeting
Any action on FCC notice on 3.7 – 4.2 GHz? Sharing rules similar to CBRS?
Implication of CBRS rules for Smart Grid FANs - topic for white paper?
OFCOM – question on IoT – is it OK to not have special bands for IoT.
In general, IoT is now handled in ISM and commercial licensed spectrum.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

11. CEN-CENELEC-ETSI Smart Grid Coordination Group
Possible new activity in this group (TBD)
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

12. IEEE PSCC TF S6
January 2018 Study Report – "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems“
TF S6 is meeting this week in Minneapolis.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

13. g and ah Coexistence
will develop a whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of other changes.
Identify use cases where g is not sufficient and both are needed
Could be choices of applications, channel guidelines, duty cycle,
Avoid perception that 802 standards are unable to coexist
Evaluate and describe potential application-level implications of delay/latency increases due to mutual interference
If NS-3 simulation models can be shared, others in IEEE 802 could progress that work.
MERL will share simulation models on Github. New modules for 11ah 15.4g
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

14. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

15. Nendica
IEEE 802 network enhancements for the next decade Industry Connections Activity Initiation Document (ICAID)
NENDICA develops reports on specific topics. Completed data centers. Next Topics
Distributed Radio Access Networks
Second work item: Flexible Factory IoT – apply TSN
activities:
can provide review and feedback on Flexible Factory IoT and Distributed Radio Access Networks
Identify vertical applications that could be enabled by TSN features
Identify vertical application that could be enabled if TSN features were present in wireless standards
Can interfaces between wired and wireless map application-specific streams?
Provide vertical application requirements (needs, underlying problems) to Nendica.
Describing what is needed to define a common framework for TSN across wired and wireless standards. How do they fit together.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

16. Sub 1 GHz White Paper Review “802.24 TAG white paper_clean_TS.docx”
Comments/Questions from IEEE editor received following July Meeting
Final review then publish
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

17. TSN White Paper
Updated document r15 uploaded to Mentor following July meeting.
Call For Comments on Reflector
Plan to finish in November
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

18. 2019 Planning
A whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases of Sub 1GHz standards g and ah. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of mechanisms proposed in TG.
Can this also include applying s in sub-1GHz spectrum?
white paper on IoT and P2413
P2413 entering Sponsor Ballot
Update of first Smart Grid white paper to address latest amendments of w, x, y
Nendica – TBD provide contributions to Nendica reports or separate white paper?
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

19. 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business?
Tim Godfrey, EPRI