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Most, Mass, and maybe More
Meanings and Minds: Most, Mass, and maybe More Paul M. Pietroski Rutgers University
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Tim Hunter A W l e e l x l i w s o o d Darko Odic J e f L i d z Justin Halberda
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Are most of the dots yellow?
6 blue 1 to 2 SUPER EASY How is the Yes/No question understood? What question is getting asked?
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Most of the dots are yellow.
MOST[DOT, YELLOW] #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT}/2 More than half of the dots are yellow (9 > 15/2) #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT & YELLOW} The yellow dots outnumber the nonyellow dots (9 > 6) #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT} – #{DOT & YELLOW} The number of yellow dots exceeds the number of dots minus the number of yellow dots (9 > 15 – 9) (And there is at least one more option to consider.) 15 dots: 9 yellow, 6 blue
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Hume’s Principle #{Triangle} = #{Heart} iff
{Triangle} OneToOne {Heart} ____________________________________________ #{Triangle} > #{Hearts} {Triangle} OneToOnePlus {Heart} α OneToOnePlus β iff for some α*, α* is a proper subset of α, and α* OneToOne β (and it’s not the case that β OneToOne α)
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Most of the dots are yellow.
OneToOnePlus[DOT & YELLOW, DOT & ~YELLOW] 1 to 2 SUPER EASY #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT}/2 #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT & YELLOW} #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT} – #{DOT & YELLOW}
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Most of the dots are yellow.
What conditions make it easy/hard to evaluate the sentence? That might provide clues about how the sentence is understood 1 to 2 SUPER EASY (given independent accounts of the information used by the evaluators in those conditions).
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
MOST[D, Y] OneToOnePlus[{D & Y},{D & Y}] #{D & Y} > #{D & Y} #{D & Y} > #{D}/2 #{D & Y} > #{D} – #{D & Y} Number Representations These analyses are provably equivalent (for finite cases) and none of them are crazy
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
MOST[D, Y] OneToOnePlus[{D & Y},{D & Y}] #{D & Y} > #{D & Y} #{D & Y} > #{D}/2 #{D & Y} > #{D} – #{D & Y} Number Representations ??Most of the paint is yellow??
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
MOST[D, Y] Why analyse at all? Why not take ‘Most’ to be primitive, as ‘dot’ and ‘yellow’ seem to be? Some of the yellow dogs barked Some of the dogs barked Some of the dogs barked loudly Some of the dogs barked None of the yellow dogs barked None of the dogs barked None of the dogs barked loudly None of the dogs barked
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
MOST[D, Y] Why analyse at all? Why not take ‘Most’ to be primitive, as ‘dot’ and ‘yellow’ seem to be? All of the yellow dogs barked All of the dogs barked All of the dogs barked loudly All of the dogs barked Most of the yellow dogs barked -- Most of the dogs barked Most of the dogs barked loudly Most of the dogs barked
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
MOST[D, Y] Why analyse at all? Why not take ‘Most’ to be primitive, as ‘dot’ and ‘yellow’ seem to be? Most of the dogs barked More than half of the dogs barked Most of the dogs barked More dogs barked than didn’t Most of the yellow dogs barked -- Most of the dogs barked Most of the dogs barked loudly Most of the dogs barked
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Most of the dots are yellow?
MOST[DOT, YELLOW] OneToOnePlus[DOT & YELLOW, DOT & ~YELLOW] 1 to 2 SUPER EASY #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT}/2 #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT & YELLOW} #{DOT & YELLOW} > #{DOT} – #{DOT & YELLOW}
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Most of the dots are yellow?
What conditions make it easy/hard to evaluate the sentence? That might provide clues about how the sentence is understood 1 to 2 SUPER EASY (given independent accounts of the information used by the evaluators in those conditions).
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a model of the “Approximate Number System”
(key feature: ratio-dependence of discriminability) distinguishing 8 dots from 4 (or 16 from 8) is easier than distinguishing 10 dots from 8 (or 20 from 10)
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a model of the “Approximate Number System”
(key feature: ratio-dependence of discriminability) correlatively, as the number of dots rises, “acuity” for estimating of cardinality decreases--but still in a ratio-dependent way, with wider “normal spreads” centered on right answers
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various ways of presenting dots (8 blue, 10 yellow)
scattered random scattered pairs various ways of presenting dots (8 blue, 10 yellow) column pairs mixed column pairs sorted
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4:5 (blue:yellow) “scattered random” 4 to 5
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1:2 (blue:yellow) “scattered random” 1 to 2 SUPER EASY
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4:5 (blue:yellow) “scattered pairs”
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9:10 (blue:yellow) “scattered pairs”
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4:5 (blue:yellow) “column pairs mixed” 4 to 5
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5:4 (blue:yellow) “column pairs mixed” 9 to 10
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4:5 (blue:yellow) “column pairs sorted”
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4:5 (blue:yellow) scattered random scattered pairs column pairs mixed
column pairs sorted
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Basic Design 12 naive adults, 360 trials for each participant
5-17 dots of each color on each trial trials varied by ratio (from 1:2 to 9:10) and type each “dot scene” displayed for 200ms target sentence: Are most of the dots yellow? answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’ by pressing buttons on a keyboard correct answer randomized controls for area (pixels) vs. number, etc.
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4:5 (blue:yellow) scattered random scattered pairs
THIS IS THE ONLY ODDBALL column pairs mixed column pairs sorted
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better performance on easier ratios: p < .001
10 : 10 10 : 20 10 : 15
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performance on Scattered Pairs and Mixed Columns
was no better than on Scattered Random… looks like ANS was used to answer the question, except in Sorted Columns
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ANS ANS scattered random scattered pairs Are most of the dots yellow? ANS column pairs mixed column pairs sorted
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but even better performance on the components of a
1-to-1-plus task if the question is not posed with ‘most’ 10 : 20 10 : 10 10 : 15
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
OneToOnePlus[{D & Y},{D & Y}] #{D & Y} > #{D & Y} #{D & Y} > #{D} – #{D & Y} Number Representations Prima facie, posing a question with ‘most’ is not a way of posing a OneToOnePlus question
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‘Most of the dots are yellow’
#{D & Y} > #{D & Y} #{D & Y} > #{D} – #{D & Y} framing the question with ‘most’ has effects that are expected if the question is understood in terms of cardinality comparison (and answered via the ANS) but unexpected if the question is understood in terms of 1-to-1 correspondence Number Representations
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Most of the dots are blue.
What conditions make it easy/hard to evaluate the sentence? That might provide clues about how the sentence is understood But there is nothing special about 200ms, or colors, or dots, or any particular task. (given independent accounts of the information used by the evaluators in those conditions).
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Most of the dots are blue.
The trick is to create contexts such that… (i) we know something about the information available to evaluators, and (ii) we can get evidence about which kinds of information evaluators are apt to use/ignore. This raises questions about how (in general) meaning is related to understanding and verification. But let’s save that discussion for the Q&A, after we’ve seen more evidence about which kinds of information evalutaors are apt to use/ignore.
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Most of the dots are blue?
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Four Trial Types (2-5 colors)
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot & ~Blue} in scenes with two colors, blue and red, the non-blues can be identified with the reds #{Dot & ~Blue} = #{Dot & Red} the visual system will “select” the dots, the blue dots, and the red dots; these 3 sets will be estimated for cardinality but adding colors will make it harder (and with 5 colors, impossible) to estimate the cardinality of the non-blues #{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue}
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot & ~Blue} verification should get harder as the number of colors increases but in the two-color case, “acuity” should be relatively good (w ≈ .15) since no estimate of the total figures in the computation #{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue} predicts indifference to the number of colors “acuity” should be less good (w ≈ .3) since an estimate of the total will figure in the computation 15 dots, 9 blue 9 > 6 15 dots, 9 blue 9 > (15 − 9)
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6 9 15 lower acuity #{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot & ~Blue}
#{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue} 6 9 15 lower acuity
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot & ~Blue} verification should get harder as the number of colors increases but in the two-color case, “acuity” should be relatively good (w ≈ .15) since no estimate of the total figures in the computation #{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue} predicts indifference to the number of colors “acuity” should be less good (w ≈ .3) since an estimate of the total will figure in the computation 15 dots, 9 blue 9 > 6 15 dots, 9 blue 9 > (15 − 9)
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better performance on easier ratios: p < .001
no effect of number of colors
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fit to psychophysical model of ANS-driven performance
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{D & B} > #{D & B} #{D & B} > #{D} – #{D & B} Number Representations Prima facie, posing a question with ‘most’ is not a way of posing a cardinality question formulated in terms of negation
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{D & B} > #{D} – #{D & B} framing the question with ‘most’ has effects that are expected if the question is understood in terms of cardinality subtraction Number Representations But even if this is right for cases involving count nouns (e.g., ‘most of the dots’) what about mass nouns, as in…….Most of the paint is blue?
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue} mass/count flexibility Most of the dots (blobs, peas, shoes) are blue Most of the paint (blob, corn, footwear) is blue are mass nouns (somehow) disguised count nouns? #{StuffUnit & BlueUnit} > #{StuffUnit} − #{StuffUnit & BlueUnit}
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Look at that goo/stuff/paint…
Is most of it blue? Is most the paint blue? Was most of the blob blue? Look at those spots/blobs… Are most of them blue? Are most of the spots blue? Were most of the blobs blue?
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First Study…’blob’ vs. ‘blobs’: performance is better,
holding the scene constant, if the question is posed with ‘blob’. w = .20 r2 = .99 w = .29 r2 = .98 Follow-Up Studies: you can replace ‘most’ with ‘more’, or ‘blob’ with ‘goo’ It seems that performance is better, holding the scene constant, if the question is posed with a mass noun
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‘Most of the dots are blue’
#{Dot & Blue} > #{Dot} − #{Dot & Blue} mass/count flexibility Most of the dots (blobs, peas, shoes) are blue Most of the paint (blob, corn, footwear) is blue are mass nouns (somehow) disguised count nouns? #{StuffUnit & BlueUnit} > #{StuffUnit} − #{StuffUnit & BlueUnit} SEEMS NOT and that raises more questions
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Most of the dots are blue?
#{D & B} > #{D} – #{D & B} framing the question with ‘most’ has effects that are expected if the question is understood in terms of cardinality subtraction Prima facie, this requires a representation of #{D} and a computation on this representation. Does use of ‘most’ reflect ease/difficulty of representing #{D}, the (total) number of dots?
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Which side is the better example of… (1) Most of the dots are blue
left right % Of Undergrads Who Choose This Side (N= 48) “Most…” = 58% “More…” = 13% on both sides, 12 blues and 8 yellows G1: most of the dots are blue Back G2: there are more blue dots than yellow dots 2nd time: click for data Which side is the better example of… (1) Most of the dots are blue (2) More of the dots are blue
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A) More of the dots are grey. B) Most of the dots are grey.
Which sentence would you choose to describe this picture? A) More of the dots are grey. B) Most of the dots are grey. 65% choose “more”
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74% choose “most” A) More of the dots are grey.
Which sentence would you choose to describe this picture? A) More of the dots are grey. 74% choose “most” B) Most of the dots are grey.
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Not just about recognition
80 participants asked to “draw” on an iPad More/Most of the dots are blue
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Not just about recognition
Typical for “More of the dots are blue”
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Not just about recognition
Typical for “Most of the dots are blue”
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Centroid distance (adults)
More Most Halberda, Pietroski, Hunter, Odic, Wellwood, & Lidz. (2012). More & most: spatial vision affects word understanding on an iPad. Vision Science Society annual meeting.
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4-8 yr olds (n=92) More Most
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Ongoing Work with Tyler Knowlton
Each cow is brown Every cow is brown All cows are brown x:Cow(x)[Brown(x)] ~x:Cow(x)[~Brown(x)] {x: Cow(x)} {x: Brown(x)} {x: Cow(x)} = {x: Cow(x) & Brown(x)}
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Tim Hunter A W l e e l x l i w s o o d Darko Odic J e f L i d z Justin Halberda
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THANKS
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