1. HTC 34; 5656 AE Eindhoven, the Netherlands
September 2009
doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0
January 2011
P802.11s timelines
Authors:
Name
Affiliation
Address
Phone
Dee Denteneer
Philips
HTC 34; 5656 AE Eindhoven, the Netherlands
Discuss TGs timelines, in relation to the timelines of REVmb
Dee Denteneer (Philips)
Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm), Bruce Kraemer, Marvell

2. TGs Timeline, from Doc 11-10/895r6
January 2011
Open
Close
Fourth recirculation (TGs draft 7.0)
24-Jul-10
12-Aug-10
Professional editing + MEC
30-Sep-10
Pool formation
22-July-10
12-Sep-10
First sponsor ballot
1-Oct-10
1-Nov-10
Second sponsor ballot
13-Dec-10
12-Jan-11
Third sponsor ballot
24-Jan-11
13-Feb-11
Fourth sponsor ballot
1-Mar-11
16-Mar-11
Fifth sponsor ballot
1-Apr-11
16-Apr-11
EC to RevCom
Jul-11
RevCom to SB
Sep-11
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

3. TGs Timeline, from Doc 11-10/895r6
January 2011
Open
Close
Fourth recirculation (TGs draft 7.0)
24-Jul-10
12-Aug-10
Professional editing + MEC
30-Sep-10
Pool formation
22-July-10
12-Sep-10
First sponsor ballot
1-Oct-10
1-Nov-10
Second sponsor ballot
13-Dec-10
12-Jan-11
Third sponsor ballot
24-Jan-11
13-Feb-11
Fourth sponsor ballot -> third
1-Mar-11
16-Mar-11
Fifth sponsor ballot -> fourth
1-Apr-11
16-Apr-11
Fifth Sponsor ballot
1-May-11
16-May-11
EC to RevCom
Jul-11
RevCom to SB
Sep-11
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

4. January 2011
Question
Are we bold enough to claim that recirculation 5 is the clean recirculation, or do we need to make changes during Recirculation 5, necessitating another recirculation?
In the following, I assume that to be the case
Also, I assumed that we do not make a recirculation out of this meeting
Also this needs confirmation from the TG
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

5. Plan In the following slides we provide a more detailed mapping
January 2011
Plan
In the following slides we provide a more detailed mapping
Depending on
11s completes before REVmb
11s completes after REVmb; for this case, we assume that REVmb completes its clean recirculation by Oktober 17
Goal: to agree on a timeline for discussion with REVmb and the editors meeting
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

6. TGs recirculations; TGs before REVmb
January 2011
TGs recirculations; TGs before REVmb
Draft 8.0 recirculation completed
January 10, 2011
Draft 8.0 Comment Resolution completed
February 17, 2011
Draft 9.0 recirculation completed
March 8, 2011
Draft 9.0 Comment Resolution completed
March 21, 2011
Draft 10.0 recirculation completed
April 5, 2011
Draft 10.0 Comment Resolution completed
April 18, 2011
Draft 11.0 recirculation completed
May
Draft 11.0 Comment Resolution completed
May 21, 2011
Draft 11.0 Clean recirculation completed
June 6, 2011
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

7. TGs recirculations; TGs after REVmb
January 2011
Draft 8.0 recirculation completed
January 10, 2011
Draft 8.0 Comment Resolution completed
February 17, 2011
Draft 9.0 recirculation completed
March 8, 2011
Draft 9.0 Comment Resolution completed
March 21, 2011
Draft 10.0 recirculation completed
April 5, 2011
Draft 10.0 Comment Resolution completed
April 18, 2011
Draft 11.0 recirculation completed
May
Draft 11.0 Comment Resolution completed
May 21, 2011
Draft 12.0 recirculation completed
November 2, 2011
Draft 12.0 Comment Resolution completed
November 22, 2011
Draft 12.0 Clean recirculation
December 7, 2011
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

8. Scenario 1
January 2011
This corresponds to the following sequence of events, assuming TGs goes before REVmb
Scenario 1, current
date
Recirculations
February-May, 2011*
Request EC Unconditional Approval to go to Revcom
July 2011
Get on September Revcom agenda
August/Sept 2011
Revcom approval
September 2011
Publication
*Note: there is room for some more recirculations to meet the September REVcom agenda
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

9. Scenario 2
January 2011
A speed up was suggested, still assuming TGs goes before REVmb, however, this is ok only with the original timeline
Scenario 2, sped up
date
Recirculation (Draft 9)
February 2011
Request EC Conditional Approval to go to Revcom
March 2011
final recircs, Draft 10 and 11
April-May, 2011*
Get on June Revcom agenda
May 2011
Revcom approval
June 2011
Publication
July 2011
*Note: Fitting in two recirculations plus a clean recirc is very tight.
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

10. Scenario 3
January 2011
REVmb expects to complete Comment Resolution by 17 Oktober 2011, so if we go after REVmb
Scenario 3, 11s after REVmb
date
Recirculations
February-May 2011
REVmb and 11s Request EC Conditional Approval to go to Revcom
September 2011
final recirculation REVmb completed
17 Okt 2011*
Final recircs 11s
18 Okt. – 7 Dec. 2011**
Revcom approval of REVmb
November 2011
Revcom approval of 11s
February 2012
With this completion date, REVmb gets on the November REVcom agenda; TGs will meet the Feb. 17 deadline to be on the february REVcom agenda
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

11. January 2011
Strawpoll
Is a time period of 4 months (mid January 2011-mid May 2011) enough to satisfactorily complete the TGs Draft basing ourselves on
Yes: 4
No: 0
Abstain: 8
Dee Denteneer (Philips)

12. Conclusion In the best estimates: Background:
January 2011
Conclusion
In the best estimates:
Waiting for REVmb will delay publication of TGs from September (June) 2011 to February 2012
According to an analysis by Adrian Stephens, waiting for TGs will delay publication of REVmb from November 2011 to publication in February 2012
Background:
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