1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
May 2017 Meeting
Daejeon, Korea
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
34 Voting Members
Agenda:
Meetings for the Week
Monday PM2
Tuesday PM2
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3. Agenda - 24-17-0011-00-0000 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Agenda - May 2017, Daejeon, Korea 1
Monday PM2 session
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Approve January TAG minutes
4:10 PM
1.4
Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting
4:15 PM
1.5
Industry Connections Coordination, IEEE Smart Grid Technical Activities group 10
4:20 PM
1.6
Smart Grid Task Group
4:30 PM
1.7
ITU and regulatory items
1.8
Finalizing Wireless Matrix sgtg 30
4:35 PM
1.9
Future Work Planning
5:05 PM
1.10
Recess
5:35 PM 2
Tuesday PM2 session
2.1
Call to Order
2.2
2.3
Working Session - TSN White Paper 80
2.4
closing - action items, TSN Teleconference plans
5:20 PM
2.5
Adjourn
5:30 PM
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6. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve March minutes TAG Action Items from March:
TAG Action Items from March:
Wael: Initiate Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT TG
Tim– plan additional meeting slot for 24.2 in Berlin to discuss the P2413 draft.
Follow up by to 24.2 leadership: Invite automotive tutorial team to participate.
Tim: Wireless Matrix: Coordinate with to find spectral efficiency details
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7. Related IEEE activities
Coordination with Industry Connections:
Regularly examine (or liaison with) IC Committee to determine if we want to be involved with any existing IC activities.
Plan of action: Check in by regularly (before plenary meetings) on status with the IC Committee
IEEE Smart Grid Technical Activities group
Establish membership – evaluate whether formal or informal liaison is appropriate
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8. Publicizing White Paper Releases
Develop procedure for back end of white papers – coordinate with Jonathan Goldberg
Action to take up in July – propose a draft process, and get agreement from IEEE
Press Releases
Standards association newsletter
External press releases
Emulate what 802.1, are doing
External publications, conferences, etc
Liaison reports to WGs
Include relevant details from external liaisons
Expand liaisons to and 802.3
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9. Monday
Smart Grid TG
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10. ITU and Radio Regulatory Items
No regulatory items related to currently known.
Discussion
Should there be new bands with new types of licensing models? Would be a good question for to discuss.
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11. Finalize PAP2 Wireless Matrix
Current Status:
Latest version r4
SEPA/SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update
will provide updated data for 802 standards
Will reach out to other standards’ contributors for any updates
Ultimately, will be forwarded to NIST as an updated addendum to NISTIR 7761 r1
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12. Update Plan Owners for updating (in coordination with WGs)
column
Tim Godfrey, Harry Bims (completed)
802.11ah
Yongho delegated to Alfred Asterjadhi (completed)
Question identified about spectrum efficiency to be investigated
Osama
column (Ruben Salazar)
Done
Added column for HRP-UWB –
Column received from Apurva incorporated into r2
Completed
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13. Notes on Editing
Y23: Need to determine spectral efficiency and formula
Assigned to Osama Aboul Magd in
Need to verify peak vs channel (MAC) data rates for and columns
Clint P, Apurva M
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14. SEPA/SGIP update WG Membership currently Tim Godfrey EPRI
Ron Cunningham AEP
Doug Gray TCS
Bill Godwin Duke Energy
Matt Gilmore Itron
Nada Golmie NIST
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15. Future Opportunities Tracking
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16. Future Opportunities Tracking (1)
white paper on IoT and P2413?
Maybe more towards completion of P2413?
Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards.
Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards.
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17. Future Opportunities Tracking (2)
ULI
Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating.
Take this up when there is a draft
s SMR – spectrum management resources
Can provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT?
IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy
ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems
ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum.
Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS
Coordinate with
Action Plan:
Coordinate with ULI initiative
4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used
White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished.
Including use of metrics for management.
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18. Future Opportunities Tracking (3)
Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to ?
Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry.
That can then define who is an appropriate liaison
Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox.
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19. Future Opportunities Tracking (4)
March 2017 Discussion on IG DEP
Explore collaboration with 802.3
Explore collaboration with
Consider Licensed spectrum.
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20. Other Future Opportunities
Monitor the LPWAN IG in to see where it goes (and links to IETF)
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21. Tuesday 802.24.2 Smart Grid TG TSN Working Session
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22. White paper on TSN
Ethernet operation to provide time bounded or deterministic services.
How can this be applied in utility applications?
Substation networks
Interconnection between LAN and WAN
The requirement comes from specific applications:
Starting point was Audio/Video, and industrial automation, and now entering automotive
Now the TSN capability is application agnostic
Automotive is an emerging application – replace CAN, Flexray, etc.
There is also ring topology for redundancy
Questions:
Is utility protection application considered for TSN?
Today there is some use of proprietary real-time Ethernet variants.
GOOSE protocols
Synchrophasor applications
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23. Outline of TSN white paper
Version after March 2017 is r1
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24. Plans for TSN white paper
IEC TC 57 Collaboration
TSN specified in through IEC
IPV6 is also being adopted into 61850
OPC Foundation, ODBA are adopting TSN (and also use 61850)
IEC TC57 is developing profiles for use of TSN.
Profiles for application domains.
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25. Development Notify 802.1 of draft update
Schedule teleconference with participants before July meeting
Mid June – to be announced on reflector
Continue call for contributions
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26. Outline of TSN white paper
Version after May 2017 is r2
Upload to mentor
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27. 802.24 TAG closing Capture action Items from this meeting
Action to take up in July – propose a draft process for white paper publishing, and get agreement from IEEE
Wireless Matrix: Get channel data rate numbers for and
Schedule TSN teleconference with 802.1
Any New Business?
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