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A. Aal (VW), Shalabh Tandon (Intel), Khai Nguyen (NVIDIA)
IEEE IRPS Automotive Workshop What are the challenges for new technologies? Moderators: A. Aal (VW), Shalabh Tandon (Intel), Khai Nguyen (NVIDIA) San Francisco, March 13, 2018 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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Attendance > 60 attendees, by counting.
25 attendees registered their names and affiliations. Official period: 7PM-8PM. After 9PM, several audience and moderators had gathered again and continue discussion. 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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Key topics raised and discussed by audiences
Standard versus system Level Mission Profile Security & Software Implication Legal vs. functionality 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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Detailed questions and discussions
Concern: System level standards are lacking in the automotive space, especially given the challenges in the ADAS space where complications will arise due to integration of several, complex components There will have to be some engagement with the larger community to build some basic, minimum requirements into specs/standards, although this will be difficult given the large # fo configurations that are possible, and proprietary OEM today has to figure out a way to fix issue. Discussion around a lack of consistent Mission Profiles (MP), especially in the new ADAS space Difference between today MP vs. autonomous driving MP ? Answer from multiple attendees, A. Aal, K. Nguyen: Yes, it has to be. GENERAL consensus – Having a common understanding of basic requirements in usage model, use conditions or mission profile will go a long way in helping all the parties prepare components (SOC), systems (boards), modules (final package) that have some consistency in performance and reliability. 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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Detailed questions and discussions
3. Given the increased process node, product feature/functionality complexity for ADAS applications, meeting ZERO defect expectation using monolithic systems is not going to be possible. Redundancy at various levels will have to be applied to. Failure safe mode? Supplies constraint? Safety mode provide through SW – V. Huard Redundancy build-in – S. Tandon Flying test – K. Nguyen AI safety requirements, legal requirements Standardize – A. Aal Mission standard vs. business model. Current practice, this Mission profile provided to suppliers through Tier 1. 4. Defect (DPPM) issue? Monitor the system continuously – from V. Huard ‘s papers 15 years life time with continuous use (ADAS) is not possible. May have to change the mindset with proper design engineer to allow maintenance replacement approach after some practical time. Because of this, input from A. Aal, IC are over designed, but they are also under design by ignorance 4. Security Compatibility design – A. Aal No standard yet. However, there are information in MCM (AEC body) from S. Hussain 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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Conclusion and recommendation
It is becoming apparent that current standards are inadequate, or obsolete, and require serious reconsideration for the ADAS market. Given the fact that cars are becoming more dependent upon the semiconductor components for a desirable experience, it behooves OEM, Tier 1 and semiconductor manufacturers to work together to introduce new methods of meeting goals that are of mutual benefit for all New standards based on use conditions or mission profiles. Direct or indirect linkages to technology challenges/process nodes. 3. For the workshop, moderators recommend, Longer period – Reason: it is a new and hot topic. Audience should have more time to raise their questions and discussed Shift this section to 2nd section of work shop – This could help in logistic, as the room is still available after 1 hr period 4. This workshop discussion will be during the next IIRW2018 in an automotive SIG (special interest group). It is intended to create a joint guideline out of this SIG. 3/18/2018 Auto Workshop - IRPS 2018
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