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TGmb Agenda, July 2009 Date: 2009-07-10 Authors: July 2009 July 2009
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 TGmb Agenda, July 2009 Date: Authors: Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Abstract Agenda for the TGmb meeting in San Francisco, California from July 13-16, 2009. Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Agenda Call meeting to order Letter ballot review
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Agenda Call meeting to order Agenda review Policies & procedures (including patent policy) Attendance recording & meeting resources Letter ballot review Comment review & resolution Plans for next meeting Authorize teleconferences & ad hocs Review timeline AOB Adjourn Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Call meeting to order July 2009
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Call meeting to order Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Patent Related Links July 2009
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 Call for Potentially Essential Patents July 2009 If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Resources – URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines Link to IEEE Code of Ethics Link to IEEE Patent Policy Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Meeting Etiquette IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly and professional manner in accordance with the policies and procedures governed by the organization. Individuals are to address the “Technical” content of the subject under consideration and refrain from making “personal” comments to or about the presenter. The Copyright Act of 1976 made a dramatic change to U.S. copyright law. Copyright was now deemed to exist from the moment of creation. Thus anything that is created is deemed to be owned by its creator. Additionally, a work no longer needs to be published in order to be protected. Therefore, even your scribbles on a piece of note paper constitute copyrighted material that you own and control. The NII (National Information Infrastructure) and the GII (Global Information Infrastructure) are causing lawmakers and copyright owners to assess the ability of current copyright law to protect owners rights in a digital environment. While at this point the changes being talked about are not significant, they will make it clear that copyright protection is afforded to owners in the digital environment making it a requirement to honor the rights accorded to owners. It is a requirement under the IEEE Bylaws that copyright ownership of all material published by the IEEE resides with the IEEE. The Standards Department accomplishes the transfer of copyright ownership from the volunteer authors to the Institute via the Project Authorization Request (PAR) form. Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Attendance recording procedures See 11-09/0246r0 Must register before logging attendance Must log attendance during each 2 hour session Documentation Use “TGm” for documents relating to the Revision PAR Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Approve Agenda 11-09/0732r2 (this document) Approval of May 2009 (Montréal, Québec, Canada) meeting minutes: 11-09/0564r0 Approval of June 29 teleconference minutes: 11-09/0708r0 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Editorial update (Adrian Stephens) Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Letter Ballot Results 246 voters 155 affirmative (87%) , 23 negative (13%), with 29 abstentions There were 730 comments received – stored in 11-09/0706 Further ballots will be recirculation ballots All comments must be against changed text Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Current TGmb Plan of Record
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Current TGmb Plan of Record May 2008 – Issue Call for Comment/Input July 2008 – begin process input and old Interpretation requests Acknowledge previous Task Group referrals Sept 2008 – PAR revision process started Nov 2008 – close receipt of new input Nov 2008 – WG/EC approval of PAR Revision Dec 2008 – NesCom/SASB approval PAR Revision May 2009 – First WG Letter ballot (includes All published Amendments as of May 2009) Sep/Nov 2009 – Recirc start January 2010 – Form Sponsor Pool (45 days) March 2010 – Sponsor Ballot Start (Include all published amendments as of March 2010) July 2010 – Sponsor Recirc March 2011 – WG/EC Final Approval June 2011 – RevCom/SASB Approval Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Scheduled comment discussions appear in this agenda document Topics are assigned a time slot, and specific comments are called out for discussion If there is leftover time after discussion, the time will be used for ad hoc comment resolution mode Schedule for comment discussions Monday PM2: open meeting, security & MAC management comments Tuesday PM1: MAC comments Tuesday PM2 - General comments Tuesday EVE - Architecture comments Wednesday PM2 – editorial coordination meeting Thursday AM2 – closing business Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Monday PM2 (continued) 13 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Security and MAC Management comments CID 1073: remove measurement pilot frame CID 1269: remove clause (channel selection in an IBSS) CIDs 1357, 1342, 1152, 1444, 1507, 1508, 1305, and 1307 and document 11-09/0705r0: proposed changes to 11.3, authentication and association Additional comment resolution Reminder: ad hoc comment resolution leaders to meet following close of this meeting Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Tuesday PM1 14 July 2009, 13:30 – 15:30 MAC comments
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Tuesday PM1 14 July 2009, 13:30 – 15:30 MAC comments CID 1270: Remove Annex N CID 1237: Rate limiting behavior CID 1131: Proposed additional rules for notification of power save mode transitions CIDs 1685, 1686, 1687, and admission control operations Additional comment resolution Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Tuesday PM2 14 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 General comments: does deprecation mean removal? A definition: dep·re·cate (děp'rĭ-kāt') tr.v. de·pre·cat·ed, de·pre·cat·ing, de·pre·cates To express disapproval of; deplore. To belittle; depreciate. Computer Science To mark (a component of a software standard) as obsolete to warn against its use in the future so that it may be phased out. [Latin dēprecārī, dēprecāt-, to ward off by prayer : dē-, de- + precārī, to pray; see prek- in Indo-European roots.] (Source: Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Tuesday PM2 (continued) 14 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Tuesday PM2 (continued) 14 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Comment list CIDs 1267 &c: Remove clause 16 (IR PHY) CIDs 1275 &c: Deprecate clause 14 (FH PHY) CIDs 1107 &c: Remove Annex C (SDL) CIDs 1068 &c: Remove Annex F (HR/DSSS & FH interoperability) CIDs 1189 &c: Deprecate DSSS-OFDM in ERP PHY Fixing Regulatory Issues Additional comment resolution Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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Tuesday EVE 14 July 2009, 19:30 – 21:30 Architecture comments
doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Tuesday EVE 14 July 2009, 19:30 – 21:30 Architecture comments CIDs 1104, 1105: Deprecate shared key authentication CIDs 1075, 1076, 1266: Major changes to clause 10 (delete or make informative) CIDs 1009, 1010, 1011, 1013: Change LCI to synchronize with recent IETF work Additional comment resolution Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Wednesday PM2 15 July 2009, 16:00 – 18:00 Editorial coordination meeting Several large editorial issues in the revision may affect other TGs, and are discussed in 11-09/0714r0 Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0732r4 July 2009 Thursday AM2 16 July 2009, 10:30 – 12:30 Editorial instruction motion on exact duplicate comments Comment resolution approval votes Preparation for September 2009 meeting Teleconferences/ad hocs Review timeline Any changes needed to plan of record (slide 14)? AOB Adjourn Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks Matthew Gast, Trapeze Networks
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