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Numerical differentiation
Recall finite differences from first week Derived from Taylor series
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Neglecting all tersms higher than first order
That’s the forward difference - also backwards and centered difference
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Why is centered finite difference O(h2)?
Subtract second equation from first
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We can combine Taylor series expansions in many different ways to get estimates of derivatives
Example: backwards second derivative, O(h2) Start with
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Multiply first equation by -5, second equation by 4 and add together
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Multiply third equation by -1 and add to above result
+ Rearrange
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Where did I get -5, 4,-1? We multiply 1st equation by a, second by b, third by c
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Now sum all equations and collect terms
Decide what derivatives we want to make disappear - want a second derivative only - eliminate first and third
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Three unknowns - 2 equations - make an assumption
Let c=-1 Can solve by hand
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If we have more derivatives to get rid of, use matrix methods - always one assumption
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More Richardson extrapolation
Recall Can do the same thing with derivatives
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Use same approach as Romberg integration with halving the step size
Example: Formula for active lateral pressure coefficient Ka with internal angle of friction f and wall with slope b and flat top is Use Richardson/Romberg approach to estimate at b=10 degrees and f=15 degrees
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Use O(h2) estimates to get O(h6) estimate
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Now do Richardson/Romberg trick
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Derivatives of unequally spaced data
Can use matrix approach with different amounts of h Example: given values of f at x=(1,2,5.5,9) determine f’’ at 2
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Let h=1, x=2 (values at 1,2,5.5,9) Equations to get rid of f’ and f’’’ are and assume a value for c
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Let c=1, then a= , b= then or
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Derivatives of unequally spaced data
Another way is to take derivative of interpolating polynomial Lagrange polynomial - second order in this case
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Derivatives and integrals with errors in data
Errors in data points can cause problems esp. with differentiation Example: with and without noise True derivative is 2x-6
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Look at ratio of noise in y to noise in dy/dx
For differentiation, fit a smooth line to the data, then take derivative
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