1. VODENJE BIBLIOGRAFIJE FAKULTETE ZA DRUŽBENE VEDE
Mira Vončina, Janez Jug
Univerza v Ljubljani, Fakulteta za družbene vede
Frequently, presenters must deliver material of a technical nature to an audience unfamiliar with the topic or vocabulary. The material may be complex or heavy with detail. To present technical material effectively, use the following guidelines from Dale Carnegie Training®.
Consider the amount of time available and prepare to organize your material. Narrow your topic. Divide your presentation into clear segments. Follow a logical progression. Maintain your focus throughout. Close the presentation with a summary, repetition of the key steps, or a logical conclusion.
Keep your audience in mind at all times. For example, be sure data is clear and information is relevant. Keep the level of detail and vocabulary appropriate for the audience. Use visuals to support key points or steps. Keep alert to the needs of your listeners, and you will have a more receptive audience.

2. Namen prispevka opisati razvoj gradnje bibliografije (so)delavcev FDV
problematizirati nekatere aktualne konceptualne in praktične vidike
spodbuditi skupno iskanje rešitev
In your opening, establish the relevancy of the topic to the audience. Give a brief preview of the presentation and establish value for the listeners. Take into account your audience’s interest and expertise in the topic when choosing your vocabulary, examples, and illustrations. Focus on the importance of the topic to your audience, and you will have more attentive listeners.
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3. Cilji oz. uporabnost rezultatov vodenja BR
osebne bibliografije
bibliografije raziskovalnih skupin in organizacij
nacionalna znanstvenoraziskovalna bibliografska produkcija
merjenje (delovne) uspešnosti (pedagoških) delavcev FDV
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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4. Pregled razvoja vodenja BR na FDV
pisni seznami / arhiviranje (do 1985)
ZX Spectrum / program EVE (od 1985)
DEC 10 na RCUL / programski paket IBIS (vzporedno)
Atari / program STeve (od 1986)
programski paket TRIP na RCUL ( )
COBISS (od 1994)
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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5. TRIP - zbirka ODKBIB (ca. 10.000 zapisov)
bibliografija FDV (ne samo raziskovalcev)
šifrant (izvedena dela: mentorstvo, uredništvo, organizacijska dejavnost)
bibliografija v ožjem smislu (ne administrativno poročilo o delu)
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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6. Pomanjkljivosti TRIP-a (1)
ročno kopiranje, prestrukturiranje in prešifriranje zapisov
vnos iz avtorjevih seznamov (nedosegljiva dela, dela "v tisku"...)
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7. Pomanjkljivosti TRIPa (2)
podvajanje redakcijskih postopkov
večkratni vnos večavtorskih publikacij oz. del (v različnih dokumentacijah)
uporabniško neprijazen dostop do izpisov
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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8. Priprava ULBB 3. knjiga (1966-1976) na papirju
4. knjiga ( ) iz TRIP-a (1994)
5. knjiga ( ) iz COBISS-a (1998)
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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9. Prehod na COBISS (1) 1992 Pogodba o sodelovanju UL v sistemu COBISS
1992 ODKJG polnopravna članica
1993 obdelava monografij in revij v COBISS-u
delo na dveh sistemih
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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10. Prehod na COBISS (2)
1994 obdelava člankov in konverzija zbirk iz TRIP-a v COBISS
retrospektivni vnos in redakcija zapisov
do nasprotovanje UL vodenju BR v COBISS-u (BOBI)
If you have several points, steps, or key ideas use multiple slides. Determine if your audience is to understand a new idea, learn a process, or receive greater depth to a familiar concept. Back up each point with adequate explanation. As appropriate, supplement your presentation with technical support data in hard copy or on disc, , or the Internet. Develop each point adequately to communicate with your audience.
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11. Letni prirast zapisov za BR
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12. Povzetek pregleda razvoja vodenja BR na FDV
posodabljanje programske in tehnične opreme
številne konverzije zbirk
ponovni/retrospektivni vnosi in redakcije
konflikti med nosilci znanstvenoinformacijske politike
fluktuacija delavcev ODKJG
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13. Razlogi ODKJG za prehod na sistem COBISS (1)
pomanjkljivosti TRIP-a
ugotovitev, da je nemogoče kvalitetno in brez večjih časovnih izgub obdelovati bibliografske enote v dveh različnih sistemih z različnimi pravili
konverzija iz COBISS-a v TRIP bi bila lažja kot obratno
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14. Razlogi ODKJG za prehod na sistem COBISS (2)
argumenti o pozitivnih vidikih novega sistema (racionalnost, transparentnost, standardiziranost, enotnost tipologije, klasifikacije in definicij publikacij)
sofinanciranje dejavnosti
strožje določene obveznosti raziskovalnih organizacij in raziskovalcev
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15. Obveznosti raziskovalnih organizacij (MZT) (1)
Pravilnik o merilih za ocenjevanje kakovosti raziskovalne dejavnosti in o evidencah ter spremljanju raziskovalne dejavnosti (Ur. l. RS, št. 65/94)
Navodila za vodenje bibliografij raziskovalcev v okviru sistema COBISS (1995)
šifrant
primarni dokumenti oz. fotokopije
ustrezno dokumentacijo za izvedena dela
označiti tip dokumenta
sodelovati pri vsebinski obdelavi
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16. Obveznosti raziskovalnih organizacij (MZT) (2)
Pravilnik o postopku in merilih za sofinanciranje programov dejavnosti organizacij informacijske infrastrukture (Ur. l. RS, št. 62/95)
Dopis raziskovalcem (1996)
strokovno delo bibliografov z licencami
svobodna izbira knjižnice, ki bi skrbela za vodenje BR
obveznost raziskovalcev, da sodelujejo z uredniki BR na predpisan način
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17. Bibliografski zapisi za potrebe BR v sistemu COBISS
so identični vsem drugim zapisom v COBISS-u
dodatno vsebujejo
tip dokumenta
šifro ustanove
šifro raziskovalca (enolična identifikacija avtorja)
izjemna pozornost konsistentnosti podatkov v posameznem zapisu
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18. Praktično delo pri vodenju BR v sistemu COBISS (1)
sprememba tipologije dokumentov/del
ukinitev delitve na publikacije in polpublikacije (izvedena dela, maska N)
dopolnitve formata COMARC/B s specifičnimi pravili
uvedba enolične identifikacije avtorja s šifro raziskovalca
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19. Praktično delo pri vodenju BR v sistemu COBISS (2)
globalni šifrant raziskovalnih ustanov
redefinicija redakcijskih postopkov COBIBa
implementacija baze podatkov CORES
povezava s faktorji vpliva iz baze Journal Citation Report
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20. Praktično delo pri vodenju BR v sistemu COBISS (3)
dopolnitev programske opreme COBISS
online izpisi s točkovanjem (1999)
programske kontrole (2001)
normativna kontrola imen (CONOR)
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21. Problematika standardov pri vodenju BR v sistemu COBISS (1)
isti standardi, postopek vsebuje mnoge posebnosti (COMARC/B)
zelo različna katalogizacijska praksa v knjižnicah
zastarevanje standardov oz. ustreznih pravilnikov, priročnikov in dokumentov
prepočasno razvijanje oz. prilagajanje (mednarodnih) katalogizacijskih standardov
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22. Problematika standardov pri vodenju bibliografije v sistemu COBISS (2)
slaba dokumentiranost, razpršenost
neizdelani (katalogizacijski) standardi obdelave internetnih dokumentov
podlaga rešitvam v formatu COMARC
potrebe in katalogizacijska praksa v COBISS-u je žal prehitevala razvoj strokovnih (bibliotekarskih) standardov
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23. Izbor gradiva za BR
primerjava z nacionalno bibliografijo (selekcija, kvaliteta zapisov, UBK)
določen s šifrantom
problematično gradivo (specifičnosti znanstveno-raziskovalnega objavljanja)
novi mediji
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24. SLIKA 2 Število bibliogr. enot
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25. Tipologija in točkovanje dokumentov/del (1)
ohlapnost definicij tipov dokumentov/del
nekonsistentnost tipologije (možnost uvrščanja iste enote v več različnih skupin)
pomanjkljiva navodila omogočajo poljubno interpretacijo
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26. Tipologija in točkovanje dokumentov/del (2)
anomalije pri določanju tipov dokumentov/del
anomalije pri izdelovanju zapisov (nekonsistentni zapisi)
prilagojeno publiciranje
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27. SLIKA 3
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28. Tipologija in točkovanje dokumentov/del (3)
sporna pristojnost za določanje tipov dokumentov
samoevalvacija
korekcija (transparentnost sistema)
(so)avtorstva
pooblaščene osebe oz. institut redaktorja: knjižničar, interna komisija na fakulteti, "siva eminenca", posebno telo pri MŠZŠ ali SAZU ali samozvani redaktorji
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29. Tipologija in točkovanje dokumentov/del (4)
neusklajenost bibliografije raziskovalcev s habilitacijsko bibliografijo
različna tipologija
različno točkovanje identičnih objav
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30. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (1)
financiranje
samoumevna obveznost
specifična storitev za specifičnega končnega uporabnika
ukinjeno javno (so)financiranje
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31. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (2)
širitev obsega BR
pojav novih medijev
širitev koncepta bibliografije raziskovalcev v administrativno poročilo o delu
širitev razumevanja publiciranja na pojem "objavljanja" v najširšem smislu
narašča obseg komuniciranja z avtorji
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32. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (3)
širitev obsega BR
s "problematičnim (elektronskim) gradivom" se povečuje čas za izdelavo povprečnega bibliografskega zapisa
širitev FDV-ja in obsega njene dejavnosti
specifičnost delovanja, publiciranja, objavljanja družboslovcev
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33. SLIKA 4
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34. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (4)
organizacijske težave visokošolskih knjižnic
časovni obseg dela za potrebe BR narašča
preobremenjenost knjižničarjev v knjižnicah z enim zaposlenim
bibliografa s specifičnim znanjem in ustreznimi izkušnjami je težko nadomestiti
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35. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (5)
problematika standardov o obdelavi internetnih dokumentov
nestabilnost vsebine, oblike in lokacij
enostavnost "objavljanja" na internetu
obstoj istovetnega teksta na različnih medijih / virih
mednarodni standardi v razvoju
potreba po uradni registraciji, pridobitvi mednarodnih standardnih številk publikacij
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36. Najbolj pereči problemi pri gradnji BR (6)
pritiski matičnih raziskovalnih organizacij in avtorjev
predlagajo vnos iz seznamov in skeniranje ali kopiranje že pripravljenih avtorjevih bibliografij z disket
kritika tipologije in točkovanja
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37. Predlogi (1)
poziv ustreznim organom MŠZŠ-ja za razrešitev problema financiranja
izjava o nujnosti sodelovanja pri implementaciji novega koncepta vodenja BR (konsistentnejša tipologija in definicije publikacij, natančnejša navodila, večja selektivnost)
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38. Predlogi (2)
opredelitev do ideje o vzporednih podatkovnih zbirkah oziroma informacijskih sistemih za gradnjo BR
organiziranje posebnih strokovnih problemskih delavnic (enotnejša katalogizacijska praksa)
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