1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
May 2018 Meeting
Warsaw, Poland
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
28 Voting Members
Agenda:
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Tuesday PM
Wednesday PM
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3. Agenda – 802.24-18-0012r0 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Agenda - March 2018, Rosemont, IL 1
Tuesday PM2 session
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Approve January TAG minutes
4:10 PM
1.4
Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting
4:15 PM
1.5
TAG Chair / Vice Chair Elections
Godfrey/Rolfe 20
4:20 PM
1.6
Smart Grid Task Group
4:40 PM
1.7
ITU and regulatory items
Godfrey/Holcomb 10
1.8
Liaison Update (IEEE 802 Liaison tutorial.pdf)
4:50 PM
1.9
Review Liaison response to IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force: "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System"
5:10 PM
1.10
802.11ah and g (SUN) coexistence (follow up) 15
5:30 PM
1.11
Recess
5:45 PM 2
Wednesday PM2 session
2.1
Call to Order IoT Task Group
DiMinico
2.2
Liaison Coordinator's Report
Diab
2.3
Review of IoT white paper development 40
2.4
Presentation on 802.1CF OmniRan for vertical applications
Riegel
5:00 PM
2.5
New Action Items, AOB
5:20 PM
2.6
5:35 PM 3
Thursday PM2 session
3.1
Call to Order
3.2
Review comments and feedback from IEEE editors on Sub 1-GHz white paper
3.3
New project and activities review
3.4
Development and Editing of TSN White Paper 30
3.5
TAG Closing and AOB
3.6
3.7
Meet with TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization (18:00 Meeting time based on TSN Schedule)
Godfrey / Farkos
6:00 PM
3.8
Adjourn
6:30 PM
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7. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve March minutes TAG Action Items from March:
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8. Liaison Pending liaison requests Plan:
Establish Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Market Segment Group.
will initiate the liaison request
Draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange.
Point of contact: IoT Market Segment Task Group
Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents.
Plan:
to draft and approve liaison request at this meeting, to have it approved by WFA in their June Meeting.
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9. Tuesday
Smart Grid TG
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10. ITU and Radio Regulatory Items
Update from
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11. New Liaison Possibility
Should we establish a liaison with IEC SEG8?
Scope of SEG8:
Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures
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12. Discussion Opportunity to provide input on 802 standards?
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

13. IEEE PSCC TF S6
January 2018 Study Report – "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems“
TAG comments and contributions from March plenary meeting have been provided back to TF S6 chair
TF S6 is meeting this week, so potentially feedback could be received by
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14. g and ah Coexistence
Review AM2 IG session discussion in and any follow up
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

15. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

16. Review of March Presentation
IEEE P802.1CF for vertical applications
Source:
IEEE OmniRAN TG
Chair: Max Riegel (Nokia Bell Labs)
Discussion on collaboration for vertical applications.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

17. Sub 1 GHz White Paper Resolve comments prior to IEEE publication
Review “ TAG white paper_edits.docx”
Continue addressing comments and questions
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

18. Future Opportunities Tracking
white paper on IoT and P2413?
Maybe more towards completion of P2413? What is the level of maturity?
Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards.
Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

19. Future Opportunities Tracking
ULI
Incorporating features from RP which are currently used in utility networking into ULI standard
Some other areas of potential interest
ULI is still in early phase – when is the right time?
Develop use cases and examples of an integrated multi-802 network including
s SMR – spectrum management resources
Can provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT?
IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy
ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems
ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum.
Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS
Notes for topics:
May be useful for dynamic radio management identified by utilities as import for future network deployments
4s resource management is defined, but not how they are used
White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished.
Including use of metrics for management. Cross-standard application of metrics
Dynamic adaptability of networks in the same spectrum as other 802 standards
Compare and contrast with link adaptation in other 802 standards
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

20. Other Future Opportunities
LPWAN
Amendment to , utilizing pieces for LPWAN
An 802-based alternative to proprietary LPWAN’s
See where IG-DEP goes.
Many use cases presented already covered by 802 standards
Potential application in utility networks for extremely hard to reach endpoints
Extremely low power use cases may be of interest to utility applications
Participation required to steer to useful work
Applying new bands and channel plans
u and v completed. Add bands in various regions for existing PHYs commonly used in smart grid.
FANE: OFDM –
Amendment for : Filling the blanks in the OFDM PHY.
SECN: Security
Action:
Late 2018: Plan update of first white paper to address latest amendments of
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21. TSN White Paper
Further editing of first section describing utility use cases
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22. TSN White Paper Review and editing of draft
Updated document r11 uploaded to Mentor following March meeting.
Will announce comment collection to and TSN
Prepare for Teleconference with planned for June 14, 10am EDT.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

23. 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business?
None
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