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IEEE 802.11ai Fast Initial Link Setup Agenda for July 2012 San Diego
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 IEEE ai Fast Initial Link Setup Agenda for July 2012 San Diego Date: Authors: Name Company Address Phone Hiroshi MANO AlliedTelesisRD Center K.K. Root Lab 8F TOC2 Bldg Nishi-Gotanda, Shinagawa-ku, Tokyo JAPAN Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda for Fast Initial Link Setup Task Group for July 2012, San Diego
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Abstract Agenda for Fast Initial Link Setup Task Group for July 2012, San Diego Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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July 2012 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 3 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
July 2012 Attendance Register Indicate attendance Slide 4 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
July 2012 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 5 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Plan for this week July 2012, San Diego
May 2008 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Plan for this week July 2012, San Diego Official time slot Monday PM1,PM2 Tuesday AM2,PM1 (adhoc) Wednesday AM1,PM1,PM2 Thursday AM1,AM2,PM2 Goals for the Meeting: Approve minutes of past meeting and teleconference Continue work on Spec framework documentation Finish and approve the 1st release of the Spec framework documentation Call for draft amending text for Spec text Approve Timeline Approve Teleconference schedule Approve Plan for September Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Bruce Kraemer (Marvell)
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Agenda Monday, July 17th , 2012 – 13:30-15:30
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Monday, July 17th , – 13:30-15:30 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Review and approve Atlanta and Teleconference meeting minutes. May Atlanta Session Minutes May-July Teleconference Minutes Plan for week Submissions-list-for-SanDiego General topics Security topics AP/Network Discovery topics General Presentation Presentation_to_WFA_on_802-11ai / Tom Siep (CSR) Presentation of Submissions Recess until PM2 As you may know, we have the schedule, which was approved by TG with consensus. Unfortunately I did not get all required actions of submissions by the deadline date. Of course the schedule would be revised if needed. However it is not same to ignore the schedule Now we are moving on to the more actual discussions, then we have to care more about fairness. I would like to accept all of submissions, however I may not commit to accept request, which violates the deadline in the future. Again I would like to ask all of members to keep the deadline of submissions for our efficient work. Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Monday, July 17th , 2012 – 16:00-18:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Monday, July 17th , – 16:00-18:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until Tuesday AM2 As you may know, we have the schedule, which was approved by TG with consensus. Unfortunately I did not get all required actions of submissions by the deadline date. Of course the schedule would be revised if needed. However it is not same to ignore the schedule Now we are moving on to the more actual discussions, then we have to care more about fairness. I would like to accept all of submissions, however I may not commit to accept request, which violates the deadline in the future. Again I would like to ask all of members to keep the deadline of submissions for our efficient work. Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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TGai Agenda for Tuesday, July 18th, 2012 – 10:30-12:30
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 TGai Agenda for Tuesday, July 18th, – 10:30-12:30 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation of submissions (12-11/0798r2) Recess until Wednesday AM1 (Tue PM1 is an Adhoc meeting) George Cherian Qualcomm Inc Fast Authentication in TGai - Updates to EAP-RP r2 Ping Fang Huawei TGai EAP based Message Flow Optimization for FILS r1 Fast Re-authentication r10 Rene Struik Struik Security Consultancy FILS-Authentication-with-Local-Authentication-and-Optional-Remote-Authorization r2 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Tuesday, July 18th, – 13:30-15:30 Adhoc meeting (AP/Network Discovery) Adhoc Chair :Marc Room: Elizabeth C Goal : Goal for scanning is to determine which contribution is to be considered by entire group in regular slot. Adhoc MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Harmonization of AP/Network Discovery aspect Adhoc meeting Adjourn Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Tuesday, July 18th, – 13:30-15:30 Adhoc meeting (Security & Upper Layer setup) Adhoc Chair :Gabor Room: Madelaine CD Goal : Goal for this adhoc is to create harmonization of security and Upper Layer setup aspect . Adhoc MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Harmonization of Security & Upper Layer setup aspect Adhoc meeting Adjourn Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, 2012 – 08:00-10:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, – 08:00-10:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until PM1 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, 2012 – 13:30-15:30
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, – 13:30-15:30 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until PM2 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, 2012 – 16:00-18:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Wednesday, July 19th, – 16:00-18:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until Thursday AM1 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Thursday, July 20th, 2012 – 08:00-10:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Thursday, July 20th, – 08:00-10:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until PM1 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Thursday, July 20th, 2012 – 13:30-15:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Thursday, July 20th, – 13:30-15:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego Recess until PM2 Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Agenda Thursday , July 20th, 2012 – 16:00-18:00
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda Thursday , July 20th, – 16:00-18:00 TGai MEETING CALLED TO ORDER CALL FOR ESSENTIAL PATENTS AND POLICIES & PROCEDURES REMINDER Modify and/or Approve Agenda Presentation Submissions-list-for-SanDiego TIME line of task group Plan for Teleconference Plan for Sep Adjourn Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Administrative Items Please be familiar with the documents at the following links: IEEE Patent Policy - Patent FAQ - LoA Form - Affiliation FAQ - Anti-Trust FAQ - Ethics - IEEE Working Group Policies and Procedures - Task Group ai (Fast Initial Link Setup) Chair and secretary Chair : Hiroshi Mano (Root Inc) Vice Chair: Marc Emmelman (Fokus) 2nd Vice Chair Gabor Bajko (Nokia) Technical Editor: Tomas Siep (CSR) Secretary: Hitoshi Morioka (Root, Inc.) Recording your attendance Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2012 All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Patent Related Links July 2012 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2012 If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
July 2012 All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Approve TGai meeting minutes of Atltanta face-to-face meeting.
July 2012 Approve TGai meeting minutes of Atltanta face-to-face meeting. Motion: Approve TGai Meeting Minutes for the IEEE March 2012 Plenary : May Atlanta Session Minutes Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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July 2012 Approve TGai teleconference meeting minutes of Atlanta to San Diego meeting. Motion: Approve TGai teleconference meeting minutes of Atlanta to San Diego meeting. May-July Teleconference Minutes Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Teleconference Schedule
July 2012 Teleconference Schedule Motion: Approve the following schedule of weekly teleconferences. Tuesdays 18:00 ET continue from 31 July until 25th Sep 2012. Duration 1Hour Using WEB-EX that will be provided by Task Group Chair Moved: , Seconded: Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab)
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Time line of TGai PAR Approved, Modified, or Extended 2010-12-08
April 2009 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Time line of TGai PAR Approved, Modified, or Extended WG Letter Ballots Initial / Recirc Jan13 / Mar 13 Form Sponsor Ballot Pool / Reform Jul 13 MEC Done Jul 13 IEEE-SA Sponsor Ballots Initial / Recirc Nov13/ Jan14 Final WG Approval Mar 14 final or Conditional 802 EC Approval Mar 14 RevCom & Standards Board Final or Continuous Process Approval Mar14 ANSI Approved N/A Hiroshi Mano (ATRD, Root, Lab) Rich Kennedy, Research In Motion
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