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AANI SC Agenda Sept 27 2016 Teleconference
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 AANI SC Agenda Sept Teleconference Date: Authors:
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Jan 2009 doc.: IEEE /1455r0 Abstract Agenda for: The teleconference of the AANI SC (Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee)
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IEEE 802.11 AANI Standing Committee
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 IEEE AANI Standing Committee Agenda August 17, 2016 Chair: Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Attendance, etc. Call for a secretary: please, volunteer
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Attendance, etc. Call for a secretary: please, volunteer Reminders to attendees: Please send me an to register your attendance Please mute when not speaking No recordings
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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Agenda Call for Secretary
Jan 2009 doc.: IEEE /1455r0 Agenda Call for Secretary Administrative: Attendance, Participants, Patents, Duty to Inform, Call for Patents, Guideline, Agenda Status/Background 3GPP RAN TSG and 3GPP SA TSG reactions to the liaison Status of 802 EC activity on liaison to 3GPP PCG Discuss led activity on “Option A”: “IEEE 5G Specification” New Business Future Sessions Planning
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Status/Background At the July 802 Plenary meeting in San Diego passed a motion to form this standing committee [1] to: Coordinate and support an IMT-2020 proposal, external proposal (option B3) [2] Coordinate with and support (lead) in meeting the actions towards “IEEE “5G” specification” (option A) [2] Report status to on the activities of this committee. Activity related to an IMT-2020 external proposal (option B3) sent a Liaison (11-16/1101r10) to 3GPP RAN and SA (9/17) The Liaison was presented and discussed at the 3GPP RAN meeting on 9/19 and at the 3GPP SA meeting on 9/22,23 Activity related to “IEEE “5G” specification” (option A) 802.1CF OmniRAN – held a brain storming meeting (9/14) Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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3GPP RAN and SA reactions to the 802.11 liaison
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 3GPP RAN and SA reactions to the liaison Both RAN and SA are supportive of working with to improve WLAN aggregation and integration, as we requested. RAN Conclusion [3]: “RAN chair will inform PCG about RAN conclusion: From RAN point of view it is desirable to discuss radio-level integration between 3GPP/NR and system” SA position on the role of WLAN in IMT-2020 (LS from IEEE WG, SP )[4]: SA considers it desirable to continue to improve WLAN integration in the 3GPP NextGen System in future There are related objectives in on-going stage 1 and stage 2 work. From Rel-6 to Rel-13, there was continual advancement of features to improve integration of WLAN with the 3GPP system. SA defers to PCG to further discuss how cooperation between IEEE and 3GPP TSGs and WGs can be pursued beyond the existing collaboration (through LS exchanges). In particular, SA requests PCG consider all aspects of the incoming LS concerning IMT-2020 submission and to provide guidance. Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Status of 802 EC activity on liaison to 3GPP PCG
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Status of 802 EC activity on liaison to 3GPP PCG The 802 EC has kicked off an effort to send an liaison to the PCG The current draft liaison provides an overview of the work done in the 802 EC 5G/IMT-2020 SC. Describing the approaches studied and the agreements made by the SC. In my view it does not currently address or suggest a way forward for 802 and 3GPP to can work together. I think this key aspect of what we are asking for should be added to the EC liaison. Discussion What should we be asking for: Liaisons (actual people)? Ways to share documents?, standards under development? Ways to share goals and development? Workshop?, Joint meetings?, Joint teleconferences? ???? Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Discuss 802.1/OmniRAN led activity on “Option A”: “IEEE 5G”
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Discuss 802.1/OmniRAN led activity on “Option A”: “IEEE 5G” At the September OmniRAN meeting on “IEEE 5G” Discussed: Industry Connections (IC), possible industries, possible way forwards IC Program: An SA tool for: Supporting the incubation of new technologies, standards and related services to help solve shared industry problems IC empowers groups with a customizable menu of IEEE and IEEE-SA resources to produce "fast-track" content and deliverables such as [5]: Proposals for standards White papers Peer-reviewed guides and position papers Conferences, workshops and other events Databases and registration services Software, tools and web services Other jointly developed results Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Discuss 802.1/OmniRAN led activity on “Option A”: “IEEE 5G”
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Discuss 802.1/OmniRAN led activity on “Option A”: “IEEE 5G” At the September OmniRAN meeting on “IEEE 5G” (cont.) Discussed some possible Industries: Cable Operators (CableLabs, Comcast, ….) Cloud Operators (Google, Microsoft, Amazon, …) Automotive (GE, Ford, Delphi, Daimler, Continental, Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, DENSO, Dolby, BMW, …) Metropolitan Networks/Public Networks (NYC, Cleveland, Bangkok, Tallinn, and many others [6]) Enterprise (Schools, Corporations, …) Stadium/Event Venues (???) Next steps?: Pick an industry and kick of an IC to discuss and define market requirements/gaps for next generation Standard for 802 “5G”. Propose an alternate way forward. Discussion Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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New Business Any other business? August, 17 2016
doc.: IEEE /1093r0 New Business Any other business? Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Future Sessions Planning
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Future Sessions Planning Teleconference: Thursday 27 October at 10:00am EDT: Continue discussion on LS to 3GPP as things develop Continue discussion on “IEEE “5G” Standard” activity November F2F meeting: Goals: Determine industries of interest for “IEEE “5G” Specification” Continue to define/promote engagement with 3GPP RAN and SA Tuesday: Status of the LS to 3GPP Continue discussion on “IEEE “5G” Specification” activity to generate input for the Wednesday PM2 OmniRAN meeting. Thursday: Any updates to the status of the LS to 3GPP Review the discussions from the Wednesday PM2 OmniRAN meeting Continue discussion on “IEEE “5G” Specification” activity Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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References 11-16-1057-01-0000-802-11-imt-2020-5g-sc-proposal
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 References imt g-sc-proposal ec GSG-report-ieee-802-ec-5g-imt-2020-sc section 9 New Radio, RP 6 General Incoming Liaisons, TD SP , note also see SP‑160737 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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