1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
November 2017 Closing Report
Orlando, FL, USA
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
34 Voting Members
Agenda:
Meetings for the Week
Monday PM
Tuesday PM
Wednesday PM :00 with , 5: TSN
Manual attendance tracking for & members
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3. Wednesday PM2 session First hour with 802.19, 2nd hour with 802.1 TSN
Agenda – r1 1
Monday PM2 session
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Approve September TAG minutes
4:10 PM
1.4
Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting
4:15 PM
1.5
Smart Grid Task Group
4:20 PM
1.6
ITU and regulatory items
Godfrey/Holcomb 15
1.7
IEEE Smart Grid Technical Activities Committee - Smart Grid Meter Survey and other activities
4:35 PM
1.8
Release SGIP PAP2 Wireless Matrix sgtg 10
4:50 PM
1.9
Review IEEE Edits of sub-1GHz white paper
5:00 PM
1.10
Review and editing contributions on TSN White Paper 30
5:15 PM
1.11
Recess
5:45 PM 2
Tuesday PM2 session
2.1
Call to Order
DiMinico
2.2
IoT Task Group business
2.3
Liaison Coordinator's Report
Diab
2.4
Update and Review of P2413 Draft (deferred from July)
Winkel 45
4:30 PM
2.5
Status and Review of IoT white paper development
2.6 3
Wednesday PM2 session First hour with , 2nd hour with TSN
3.1
3.2
Joint meeting with on ah and g (SUN) coexistence
Godfrey / Shellhammer 60
Meet with TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization
Godfrey / Farkos
3.3
6:00 PM
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

4. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approved September minutes
Unanimous Consent
TAG Action Items from July / September:
Plan TSN teleconference (October)
Did not happen – pick up at this meeting
Coordinate with Wael on Wi-Fi Alliance Liaison
Review IoT MSTG Use Case Document (Henry Chiarelli)
Set up Private Area for exchanging documents under Liaison (done)
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

5. Monday
Smart Grid TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

6. Finalize PAP2 Wireless Matrix
Current Status:
Latest version r6
Pinged last week for spectrum efficiency values
Osama will review with ax group
SEPA/SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update
output will provide update for 802 standards
Other standards’ contributors may provide additional updates
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

7. SEPA/SGIP update WG Membership (established by SEPA)
Tim Godfrey EPRI
Ron Cunningham AEP
Doug Gray TCS
Bill Godwin Duke Energy
Matt Gilmore Itron
Gerald Gray EPRI
Planning first call next week, Nov 13
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

8. Sub 1 GHz Publishing
IEEE staff (Catherine Berger) has edited our final draft and provided proposed revisions
sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1
Posted as r0
TAG action: Review and approve
Edited version in sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1
Final version after review to be sent back via Jonathan Goldberg
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

9. 802.11 AANI SC Discussion in 802.11 AANI SC
Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee
Response to IEEE 5G white paper
AANI wants to generate a response
Key question:
Is (and more broadly IEEE 802) going to be more than a “component” of future networks that are controlled by 3GPP?
Would participants like to contribute (assuming also contributes) if an all-802 response and white paper content is requested?
No objection
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

10. Future plans (Nov 2017 Updates)
Monitor the LPWAN IG in to see where it goes (and links to IETF)
Starting SG – amendment to , utilizing pieces for LPWAN
Develop an 802-based alternative to proprietary LPWAN’s
Applying new bands and channel plans
u and v completed. Add bands in various regions for existing PHYs commonly used in smart grid.
IG on OFDM –
Will result in a new amendment for : Filling the blanks in the OFDM PHY. PAR in March, TG meeting in March/May.
Action: Late 2018: Plan update of first smart grid white paper to address latest amendments of
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

11. Tuesday IoT TG
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

12. Tuesday: 802.24.2 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report
Wael Diab (not present)
IIC Liaison Report
Any new liaison requests
Request to explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group.
will initiate the liaison request
Action Wael – draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange.
Suggested: IoT Market Segment Task Group
Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

13. 802.24 Private Area The P2413 draft is currently available
Drafts and other documents provided under liaison agreements are available here for use by members:
The P2413 draft is currently available
For access credentials, please contact the Chair or Vice-chair
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

14. 802.24.2 P2413 Liaison Report and Draft Review
Ludwig Winkel
Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper
Can be use to explain to the 802 community how 802 fits into the overall IoT architecture
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

15. 802.24.2 Review and plan IoT white paper development
Chris DiMinico
Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft
Contributions towards IoT White Paper
Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Use Case Document Review
Pending establishment of liaison
Chris intends to submit proposal for a IoT Tutorial in March 2018
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

16. Wednesday 802.24 / 802.19 Joint Session
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

17. Coexistence g and ah
Review and discuss document r2
Simulation scenario shows impact of ah on g operation. Suggestion that a coexistence mechanism may be needed
Follow up meetings in will investigate. Results may lead to updating of ’s Sub-1GHz white paper.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

18. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.1 TSN Joint Working Session
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

19. Update on TSN white paper
Notes from July:
Leads for developing text contributions:
Janos Farkas – section on “Describe how TSN works”
Maik Seewald – section on “Understand IEC activities and relationships”
Karl Weber – section on DER and stabilizing networks with reactive power control.
Rodney Cummings – “how TSN features make use of time sync protocols”
Updated version after initial merge of Norm Finn contribution
r10
Norm’s text in purple
“How it works”, “Appendix 1 – Standards Summary”
Maik’s text contribution re-inserted
Challenge is reducing excellent content to more manageable size for this white paper.
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

20. Next Steps Continue merging and condensing content from Norm Finn
Merge content related to time synchronization
Other text contributions from TSN?
Document contribution from Rodney Cummings possible
Review IETF DetNet use cases – incorporate others as appropriate
Teleconference in January
January Interim not all-802.
Another updating cycle before March plenary?
802.1 interim is Jan
Plan on call week of Jan 29 (follow up and announce on reflect)
Avoid Tuesday and Thursday mid-day EST
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

21. 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting
Plan TSN teleconference
Forward reviewed Sub-1GHz white paper for publishing
Tim Godfrey, EPRI