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1 The off-shell Coulomb-like amplitude in momentum space
Takashi Watanabe , Collaborator : Shinsho Oryu, Yasuhisa Hiratsuka, Yoshio Togawa, Akio Kodama, Masayuki Takeda Department of Physics, Faculty of Science and Technology, Tokyo University of Science, Yamazaki, Noda City, Chiba Japan The Seventh Asia-Pacific Conference on Few-Body Problems in Physics (APFB 2017) is to be held on Aug. 25 (Fri.) – 30 (Wed.), 2017 in Guilin

2 The New Horizon in the Exact Coulomb treatment !
We have a long history of Coulomb problem more than a half century! Nobody finished the Coulomb problems except for some approximations. Faddeev himself could not solve the problem, and finally his wife Veselova tried it !

3 Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary?

4 Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary?
No, in low energy, in heavy ions, in the threshold behavior, etc., the Coulomb treatment is important.

5 I. The next New Horizon can be discovered
in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary? No, in low energy, in heavy ions,in threshold behavior, etc. , the Coulomb treatment is important. Do you think that the Coulomb interaction is well investigated in nuclear physics?

6 I. The next New Horizon can be discovered
in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary? No, in low energy, in heavy ions,in threshold behavior, etc. , the Coulomb treatment is important. Do you think that Coulomb interaction is well investigated in nuclear physics? In two-body Coulomb, which is analytically known in r-space, Yes. But in p-space No!

7 3) Do you know the Coulomb off-shell amplitude in r-space?
I. The next New Horizon can be discovered in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary? No, in low energy, in heavy ions,in threshold behavior, etc. , the Coulomb treatment is important. Do you think that Coulomb interaction is well investigated in nuclear physics? In two-body Coulomb, which is analytically known in r-space, Yes. But in p-space No! 3) Do you know the Coulomb off-shell amplitude in r-space?

8 Nobody knows ! I. The next New Horizon can be discovered
in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary? No, in low energy, in heavy ions,in threshold behavior, etc. , the Coulomb treatment is important. Do you think that Coulomb interaction is well investigated in nuclear physics? In two-body Coulomb, which is analytically known in r-space, Yes. But in p-space No! 3) Do you know the Coulomb off-shell amplitude in r-space? Nobody knows !

9 important in the three-body calculation.
I. The next New Horizon can be discovered in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! Do you think, the Coulomb force in the nuclear and particle physics is supplementary? No, in low energy, in heavy ions,in threshold behavior, etc. , the Coulomb treatment is important. Do you think that Coulomb interaction is well investigated in nuclear physics? In two-body Coulomb, which is analytically known in r-space, Yes. But in p-space No! 3) Do you know the Coulomb off-shell amplitude in r-space? Nobody knows ! You can find that the off-shell amplitude is important in the three-body calculation.

10 Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by the “Fourier transformation” ?

11 No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave.
Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by the “Fourier transformation” ? No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave.

12 a) the partial wave expansion of Coulomb potential diverges.
Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by the “Fourier transformation” ? No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave. In p-space, a) the partial wave expansion of Coulomb potential diverges.

13 the Coulomb potential cannot be satisfied.
Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by the “Fourier transformation” ? No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave. In p-space, a) the partial wave expansion of Coulomb potential        diverges b) Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation for the Coulomb potential cannot be satisfied.

14 Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by
the “Fourier transformation” ? No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave. In p-space, a) the partial wave expansion of Coulomb potential     diverges b) LS equation for the Coulomb potential cannot be     satisfied In r-space, can you analytically solve the three-body Faddeev equation with Coulomb potential ?

15 Can you obtain the exact solution in p-space by
the “Fourier transformation” ? No! the Fourier transformation is done by a plane wave. In p-space, a) the partial wave expansion of Coulomb potential diverges b) LS equation for the Coulomb potential cannot be satisfied In r-space, can you analytically solve the three-body Faddeev equation with Coulomb potential ? No! you will find that any r-space calculations contain some approximations.

16 If you use any screened Coulomb potential in p-space, two- and three-body calculations are difficult because of the cancellation of significant digits, when you increase the screening range.

17 Motivation & Goal

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20 Motivation: 1) In the Coulomb plus nuclear interactions,
the boundary conditions are mixed.

21 Motivation: 1) In the Coulomb plus nuclear interactions,
the boundary conditions are mixed. 2) Traditional screened Coulomb phase shift doesn’t converge when the range is increased.

22 Motivation: Goal: 1) In the Coulomb plus nuclear interactions,
the boundary conditions are mixed. 2) Traditional screened Coulomb phase shift doesn’t converge when the range is increased. Goal: In order to unify the boundary conditions, we construct a screened Coulomb potential (SCP) with long range information.

23    Calculated results

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26 Proton-proton case: MeV
R= fm No. of Gauss points 1400 No. of digits    250 Theory  deg. Numerical 96.9 deg. deg R=10000 fm Gauss points 630 No. of digits 200 R=900 fm Gauss points 500 No. of digits 100 R=800 fm Gauss points 350 No. of digits 100 Proton-proton case: MeV

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37 Black bands are short range best fit
Red bands are given by the analytic range function Red and Black lines coincide when

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43 However, we confirmed that the Alt’s renormalization method is correct in some sense !!

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52 Off-shell auxiliary amplitude
TΦR0(p,p’;E) [fm-1] Off-shell auxiliary amplitude p=p’ E=1.0 MeV k= fm-1 p=0.062 fm-1 p’ [fm-1]

53 [fm-1] E=1.0 MeV k= fm-1 p=0.062 fm-1 on-shell p [fm-1]

54 These results show We can not neglect the off-shell auxiliary term. Off-shell part could interfere with many terms in the three-body equation.

55 Concrusion

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57 Thank you very much for your attention!

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60 A New Horizon of Few-Body Problems
was found by L.D. Faddeev in 1960

61 I. The next New Horizon can be discovered
in the Exact Coulomb treatment ! We have a long history of Coulomb problem more than a half century! Nobody finished the Coulomb problems except for some approximations. Faddeev himself could not solve the problem, and finally his wife Veselova tried it !

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65 m=1 case (Yukawa-type) 4-digit accuracy Number of Gaus
Number of digits  

66 m=5 case 4-digit accuracy Number of Gaus Number of digits  

67 m=5 case 3-digit accuracy H E C D B A G F I R=4.50×105 fm
E=1.0×10-3 MeV σ0=96.8 deg. m=5 case 3-digit accuracy R=4 fm E=100 MeV σ0= deg. R=7.7×104 fm E=1.0×10-2 MeV σ0=-16.3 deg. R=8 fm E=50.0 MeV σ0= deg. R=35 fm E=10.0 MeV σ0=-1.17 deg. H R=3700 fm E=0.1 MeV σ0=-10.7 deg. E C D B A G F R=17 fm E=20.0 MeV σ0= deg. R=620 fm E=1.0 MeV σ0=-3.66 deg. R= 6.2×106fm E=1.0×10-4 MeV σ0=949.9 deg. I

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74 The renormalization method: Schrödinger equations,
Asymptotic wave functions Define an auxiliary function

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84 If you use any screened Coulomb potential in p-space,
two- and three-body calculations are difficult because of the cancellation of significant digits, when you increase the screening range. Some recent examples: Alt-Sandhas-Ziegelmann’s (ASZ) “phase-shift renormalization method”: (1976~1985)

85 If you use any screened Coulomb potential in p-space,
two- and three-body calculations are difficult because of the cancellation of significant digits, when you increase the screening range. Some recent examples: Alt-Sandhas-Ziegelmann’s (ASZ) “phase-shift renormalization method”: (1976~1985) It is almost impossible to calculate by using the method “less than 1010 digits accuracy”.

86 If you use any screened Coulomb potential in p-space,
two- and three-body calculations are difficult because of the cancellation of significant digits, when you increase the screening range. Some recent examples: Alt-Sandhas-Ziegelmann’s (ASZ) “phase-shift renormalization method”: (1976~1985) It is almost impossible to calculate by using the method “less than 1010 digits accuracy”. Deltuva-Fonseca-Sauer (DFS) p-d calculation, by “a short-range cut-off screened Coulomb potential with ASZ’s method”. (2005)

87 It has almost same problems which were seen in ASZ.
If you use any screened Coulomb potential in p-space, two- and three-body calculations are difficult because of the cancellation of significant digits, when you increase the screening range. Some recent examples: Alt-Sandhas-Ziegelmann’s (ASZ) “phase-shift renormalization method”: (1976~1985) It is almost impossible to calculate by using the method “less than 1010 digits accuracy”. Deltuva-Fonseca-Sauer (DFS) p-d calculation, by “a short-range cut-off screened Coulomb potential with ASZ’s method”. (2005) It has almost same problems which were seen in ASZ.

88 History of the renormalization method:
1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955)

89 History of the renormalization method:
1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955) 2) A. M. Veselova, Teor. Mat. Fiz 3, 326 (1970)~(1978)

90 History of the renormalization method:
1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955) 2) A. M. Veselova, Teor. Mat. Fiz 3, 326 (1970)~(1978) Photo by Prof. E. Kalganova in St. Petersburg 2004

91 History of the renormalization method:
1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955) 2) A. M. Veselova, Teor. Mat. Fiz 3, 326 (1970)~(1978) 3) E. O. Alt, W. Sandhas, H. Zankel, H. Ziegelmann, PRL. 37, 1537 (1976)~(1985).

92 4) A. Deltuva, A. C. Fonseca, P. U. Sauer, PRC 71 054005 (2005).
History of the renormalization method: 1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955) 2) A. M. Veselova, Teor. Mat. Fiz 3, 326 (1970)~(1978) 3) E. O. Alt, W. Sandhas, H. Zankel, H. Ziegelmann, PRL. 37, 1537 (1976)~(1985) 4) A. Deltuva, A. C. Fonseca, P. U. Sauer, PRC (2005). Deltuva et al. used Alt-method, and also used the generalized potential and the renormalization phase with m=5 !

93 r-space calculation for p-d with a Coulomb approximation:
History of the renormalization method: 1) W. Tobocman, M. H. Kalos PR 97, 55 (1955) 2) A. M. Veselova, Teor. Mat. Fiz 3, 326 (1970)~(1978) 3) E. O. Alt, W. Sandhas, H. Zankel, H. Ziegelmann, PRL. 37, 1537 (1976)~(1985) 4) A. Deltuva, A. C. Fonseca, P. U. Sauer, PRC (2005). r-space calculation for p-d with a Coulomb approximation: T. Sasakawa, T. Sawada , Phys. Rev. C 20, 1954 (1979). A. Kievsky, S. Rosati, M. Viviani, PRL 82, 3759 (1999).  S. Ishikawa , Few-Body Syst. 32: 229 (2003).

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95 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics !

96 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1, therefore it didn’t converge!

97 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, and didn’t converge!

98 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. 2) Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! 3) Optical potential ? which was phenomenological !

99 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. 2) Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! Optical potential ? which was phenomenological ! 4) Nuclear potentials? which were phenomenological too ! Sigma-meson was not found ! Since many mesons were found, then Yukawa meson is not everything. Therefore, nuclear potential could not be perfectly illustrated.

100 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. 2) Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! 3) Optical potential ? which was phenomenological ! 4) Nuclear potential? which were phenomenological too ! Sigma-meson was not found ! Since many mesons were found, then Yukawa meson is not everything. Therefore, nuclear potential could not be perfectly illustrated. 5) The dispersion theory was discussed only as a framework.

101 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. 2) Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! 3) Optical potential ? which was phenomenological ! 4) Nuclear potential? which were phenomenological too ! Sigma-meson was not found ! Since many mesons were found, then Yukawa meson is not everything. Therefore, nuclear potential could not be perfectly illustrated. 5) The dispersion theory was discussed only as a framework. 6) Not few-body, but, there were some good results. Group theory by Wigner, Shell-model, etc.

102 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! Optical potential ? which was phenomenological ! Nuclear potential? which were phenomenological too ! Sigma-meson was not found ! Since many mesons were found, then Yukawa meson is not everything. Therefore, nuclear potential could not be perfectly illustrated. 5) The dispersion theory was discussed only as a framework. Not few-body but, there were some good results. Group theory by Wigner, Shell-model, etc. 7) Few-body reactions: pick-up reaction, knock-on , stripping, heavy particle striping, DWBA, etc. which are unified by the Faddeev equation.

103 The1950s as an era before daybreak (dawn) which was a chaotic age in few-body problem in hadron physics ! 1) The perturbation method in hadron physics?, which was denied, because of the coupling constant is larger than 1. Variational calculation ? , which needs many parameters, but didn’t converge! Optical potential ? which was phenomenological ! Nuclear potential? which were phenomenological too ! Sigma-meson was not found ! Since many mesons were found, then Yukawa meson is not everything. Therefore, nuclear potential could not be perfectly illustrated. 5) The dispersion theory was discussed only as a framework. Not few-body but, there were some good results. Group theory by Wigner, Shell-model, etc. 7) Few-body reactions: heavy particle striping, knock-on, pick-up, stripping reactions, DWBA, etc. which are unified by the Faddeev equation. Therefore, a discovery of the Faddeev equation was spectacular!

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