1. July 2007 Mesh Agenda Authors: July 2007 Date: 2007-07-19 July 2007
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July 2007 Mesh Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliations
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA
Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2. IEEE 802.11s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group
July 2007
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IEEE s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
San Francisco, California
15-19 July, 2007
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola
Technical Editor: Steve Conner, Intel
Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3. Hyatt Regency, 5 Embarcadero Center, San Francisco, California
July 2007
Venue
Hyatt Regency, 5 Embarcadero Center, San Francisco, California
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
July 2007
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday Morning Ad Hoc
Administrivia and Status
Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft
Tuesday
TGs Process Presentation
Wednesday
Security Presentations
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
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5. Monday, 16 July 2007 8:00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D
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Monday, 16 July :00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D
Call ad hoc meeting to Order
Manual Attendance Reminder
Selection of Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer
Ad hoc Agenda approved by unanimous consent.
Miscellaneous Announcements
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
Draft D1.05, W. Steven Conner
“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, W. Steven Conner, 11-07/23r37
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6. Monday, 16 July 2007 8:00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Monday, 16 July :00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Interest in different subgroups?
MAC – 6, Security – 4, RFI – 5, General – 2; agree to break into subgroups to work on comment resolution after presentation of submisison.
“Mesh Local Synchronization”, Zhen Xie, 11-07/2096r0.
Divide into subgroups:
MAC – Michelle Gong
RFI – Guenael Strutt
Security – Jesse Walker
Recombine and Adjourn ad hoc meeting
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

7. Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D
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Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D
Call to Order
Attendance Recording
Selection of Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics
Miscellaneous Announcements
Agenda Approved by unanimous consent
Approval of Minutes:
May 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/746r0, approved by unanimous consent
Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes, approved by unanimous consent
13-16 June (Hillsboro) Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2009r0
16 July Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2166r0
Teleconference Minutes, approved by unanimous consent
23, 30 May 2007, 11-07/1961r0, 11-07/1966r0
20, 27 June 2007, 11-07/2015r0, 11-07/2042r0
11 July 2007, 11-07/2141r0
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

8. July 2007
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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9. Miscellaneous Announcements
July 2007
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups
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Member Affiliation
It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation.
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11. Declaration of Affiliation
July 2007
Declaration of Affiliation
Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw
Openness
Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors.
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Affiliation Policy
Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes
Affiliation not necessarily same as employer
Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve
11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation?
As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared.
Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13. Automated Attendance Recording
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2142r0
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
Draft D1.05, W. Steven Conner
“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, W. Steven Conner, 11-07/23r37
“Mesh Frame Formats”, Steve Conner, 11-07/2201r0 (word 11-07/799r8)
Moved, to adopt the submission contained in document 11-07/799r8 to resolve all of the open CIDs labeled with issue identifier G11 (frame formats) in 11-07/23r37, and instruct the editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft
Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Joseph Kim
Adopted by unanimous consent.
“Power Management and Path Selection”, Michelle Gong, 11-07/2095r2
“Path Selection and Power Save”, Guenael Strutt, 11-07/2181r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30 , Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Three straw polls from 11-07/2095r2:
Should MPs in PS mode participate in path selection instead of acting only as a leaf node?
Yes: No: 0
Should MPs that act as forwarding nodes operate in PS modes?
Yes: 5 No: 5
Should main-powered MPs and battery-powered MPs be treated differently in the path selection process?
Yes: No: 3
Recess until 08:00 Wednesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 8:00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C
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Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Agreed by unanimous consent to insert the comment resolutions in 11-07/2217r0 into the comment resolution spread sheet as Open.
Security Presentations
“Updates on PLM protocol”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-07/2174r1
Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2174r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Guenael Strutt
Adopted by unanimous consent
“Abbreviated Handshake Updates and Design Rationale”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-07/2176r0 (doc /1999r2)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

17. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 8:00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.)
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Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.)
Security Presentations (cont.)
“Overview of Improvements to Key Holder Protocols”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/1988r1 (doc /1987r1)
Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/1987r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Guenael Strutt
Adopted by unanimous consent
“Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/2037r0
Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2037r0 and direct the editor ot incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Hrishikesh Gossain
Moved, to postpone to the afternoon session
Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded: Jorjeta Jetcheva
Postponed by unanimous consent
“Summary of Updates to MSA Overview and MKD Functionality Text”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/2179r0 (doc /2119r0)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

18. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 8:00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.)
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Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.)
“Intra-Mesh Congestion Control Comment Resolution”, Bahareh Sadeghi, 11-07/456r2
Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/456r2 with the last two occurrences of “transmission” changed to “frame” in the informative note at the end to resolve Open comments with issue identifiers M1 and Congestion Control and direct the editor to incorporate them in the Draft.
Moved: Bahareh Sagedhi Seconded: Michael Bahr
Adopted by unanimous consent
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E
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Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2037r0 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Hrishikesh Gossain
Yes: No: 4 Abstain: (< ¾ fails)
“Simulation Results”, Mathilde Benveniste, 11-07/2180r0
“Suggested Comment Resolution to CID 4491”, Michelle Gong for Kazayuki Sakoda, 11-07/2146r1
Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2146r1 as the resolution of CID 4491 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Michelle Gong Seconded: Dee Denteneer
Adopted by unanimous consent
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

20. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.)
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Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.)
“MDA Assorted Comments”, Dee Denteneer, 11-07/2005r2
Unanimous straw poll consensus in favor of defining separate frame formats rather than one container frame format for MDA.
Moved, to adopt the resolutions of CIDs 862, 530, 268, 3553, 1044, and 1856 in 11-07/2005r2 and direct the editor to incorporate them in the Draft.
Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded:
Adopted by unanimous consent
“HWMP Frame Formats”, Hrishikesh Gossain, 2199r0
Moved, to adopt the resolution of CIDs 5139 in 11-07/2199r0 and direct the editor to incorporate it in the Draft.
Moved: Hrishikesh Gossain Seconded: Dee Denteneer
Adopted by unanimous consent.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

21. Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.)
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Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.)
“Suggested Editorial Updates on Information Element Lengths”, Steve Conner for Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-07/2152r1
Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2152r1 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Michelle Gong
The chair ruled this to be an editorial change.
Adopted by unanimous consent
“Mesh Frame Format and Addressing”, Kevin Hayes, 1989r1
Recess until 08:00 Thursday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

22. Thursday, 19 July 2007 8:00-10:00, Pacific Concourse D
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Thursday, 19 July :00-10:00, Pacific Concourse D
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
“RA-OLSR Comment Resolution”, Joseph Kim, 11-07/2125r2 (word 11-07/2124r4)
Announcement: New revision 11-07/2180r1 has been uploaded.
“Synchronization Issues – A Summary”, Dee Denteneer, 11-07/2000r2
“Power-Save Aware Route Metrics ”, James Yee, 11-07/2200r2
Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of a routing metric that includes ALL the component metrics as described in this submission (11-07/2200r2)?
Yes: No: 9 Abstain: 10
Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of a routing metric that includes the Battery Life metric as described in this submission (11-07/2200r2)?
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 12
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

23. Thursday, 19 July 2007 8:00-10:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Thursday, 19 July :00-10:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of a routing metric that includes the SNR Based metric as described in this submission (11-07/2200r2)?
Yes: No: 4 Abstain: 13
Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of a routing metric that includes the and PS Latency metric as described in this submission (11-07/2200r2)?
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 13
Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of a routing metric that includes the Load Balancing metric as described in this submission (11-07/2200r2)?
Yes: 9 No: 9 Abstain: 10
Recess until 16:00
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

24. Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D
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Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Use new templates for documents!
Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2119r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft
Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Hrishikesh Gossain
There was concern about part of this motion. The chair asked for guidance from the assembly in the form of a vote on recessing for ten minutes so that these concerns could be addressed.
Vote on recessing for ten minutes: Yes: No: 8
The chair then adjourned the meeting for ten minutes.
When the meetnig came back to order, the motion was considered modified as follows:
Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2119r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft except for section , 7.4b.1, 7.4b.1.18, 11A and subsections of 11A
Yes: 9 No: 1 Abstain: 8 (passes > ¾)
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

25. Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Moved, to adopt document 11-07/2124r5 with “value given in Table 7.2.6” replaced by “value given in Table minus two” and the informative text moved to Annex T, as the resolution of the following comments related to RA-OLSR:
CIDs 0655, 0682, 0863, 0864, 1307, 1308, 1309, 1378, 1525, 1550, 1551, 1553, 1554, 1557, 1558, 1559, 1563, 1565, 1566, 2049, 2085, 2740, 2752, 2773, 3374, 3384, 3390, 4027, 4146, 4558, 5707.
Moved: Joseph Kim Seconded: Michael Bahr
Yes: No: Abstain: 15
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

26. Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
“RFI CID Resolutions”, Michael Bahr, 11-07/2258r0
Moved, to enter the comment resolutions in 11-07/2258r0 into the TGs comment resolution spread and to adopt those labeled as Accept, Reject, and Counter.
Moved: Michael Bahr Seconded: Steve Conner
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 4
“MDA Action Frame Formats”, Dee Denteneer, 11-07/2235r1
Moved, adopt the changes to the Draft in 11-07/2235r1 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft.
Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Steve Emeott
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 7
Moved, To adopt all Open comment resolutions marked with proposed resolution of Accept, Counter, or Reject in 11-07/23r39.
Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Dee Denteneer
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 2
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

27. Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
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Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Discussion and Votes re Process
“TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2142r1
Munich ad hoc CANCELLED by unanimous consent.
Straw Poll on when to hold teleconferences:
10AM: PM: 13
Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences between September and November meetings, starting 1 August through 26 September, Wednesdays, except during the Lihue ad hoc and Waikoloa meeting, at 5pm.
Moved: Kevin Hayes Seconded: Chris Hinz
Approved by unaninmous consent
Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before this motion.
Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Jan Kruys
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

28. Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
July 2007
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Thursday, 17 May :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.)
Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again?
From September Meeting: 2 After September Meeting: 19
Other Technical Presentations
“Plans for an open implementation”, Javier Cardona, 11-07/2164r1
“Segregated Data Services in ”, Donald Eastlake and Guido Hiertz, 11-07/2161r1
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

29. [Reference Information]
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[Reference Information]
PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Trivial update at
Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Pending Amendment to PAR and 5 Criterion: 11-07/149r5.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.05:
11-07/23r40: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93
Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based:
11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs
11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview
Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts)
11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s
11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope
11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists
11-04/662r16: Usage Models
11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

30. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0
May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0
April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1
March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0
February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0
January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0
November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0
November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1
September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11-06/1565r0
July 2006 San Diego, California, 11-06/1007r0
June 2006 Ad Hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-06/849r0
May 2006 Meeting, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-06/775r0
March 2006 Meeting, Denver, Colorado, 11-06/445r0
Recent Teleconference Minutes
28 March 2007, 11-07/519r0
4, 25 April 2007, 11-07/528r0, 11-07/571r0
2, 9 May 2007, 11-07/585r0, 11-07/620r0
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola