1. Report of TGv – July 2005 DATE: July 2005 Author(s) January 2005
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Report of TGv – July 2005
DATE: July 2005
Author(s)
Name
Company
Address
Phone
Pat R. Calhoun
Cisco Systems, Inc
170 West Tasman Dr.,
San Jose, CA 95134
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2. Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the July 2005 session.
January 2005
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Abstract
Report of the meeting of TGv at the July 2005 session.
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3. Goals for July 2005 Individual requirements presentations
Assign any remaining requirements to owners
All non-assigned or non-agreed upon requirements fall in the ‘b’ category
Collect proposed text for requirements document
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4. Submissions Submissions July 2005
11-05/0642r1 – TGv Objectives – Emily H. Qi
11-05/0270r2 – Virtual AP Requirements – Pat Calhoun
11-05/0014r1 – E911 Support – Joe Kwak
11-05/0732r2 – Client Management Protocol – Tim Olson
11-05/0500r1 – Control Approaches – Joe Kwak
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5. Proposed Agenda Review IEEE patent policy Approve agenda
July 2005
Review IEEE patent policy
Approve agenda
Group status update
Approve minutes from last meeting
Attendance Update
Call for presentations
Tuesday:
11-05/0270r2 – Calhoun (Virtual APs)
11-05/0014r1 – Kwak (E911/VoIP)
11-05/0732r0 – Olson (Client Management Protocol)
Thursday:
11-05/0500r1 – Kwak (Control Approaches)
11-05/0740r0 – Anantha (Site Specific RF Management) - Delayed
11-05/xxxxr0 – Kwak (Advanced Antennas) - Delayed
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6. Proposed Agenda (cont.)
July 2005
Objectives discussion (11-05/0642r1)
Other technical submissions
Next steps
Motions for working group
Adjourn
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7. Motion to approve TGv May 2005 minutes
July 2005
Moved: to approve meeting minutes 05/0459r2
Mover: Dick Eckard
Seconder: Tim Olson
Passes: unanimous
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8. Motion to adopt “objectives” document
July 2005
Moved: to adopt document 05/0642r0 as “TGv Objectives” working document. This would be the editor’s notes, listing the targeted objectives the end protocol would address.
Mover: Emily Qi
Seconder: Bob Miller
Passes: 1/14/7
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9. Attendance Recording -802.11
July 2005
A sign-in sheet will be located at the Registration desk
Each member must sign-in “once” (1) per day, between the hours of 0800 and 1730 local time
Participants must “sign” their name in the appropriate place and state % of attendance that day in
Attendance will be checked against other 802 groups.
Those found abusing the honor system will loose ALL credit for that day.
These sheets are provided daily. If you don’t sign up during the “regular sign-in” hours, you will NOT be given credit for that day.
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10. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either:
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or
b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination.
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
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11. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2005
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims
Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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12. Straw poll #1
July 2005
Do we believe that TGv should define a framework to allow a STA to extract and provide information from another STA, which could be useful for load balancing, pushing configuration, retrieving statistics, etc. TGv would have to identify the specific managed elements that are of interest.
This would allow for client management without any reliance on an SNMP client or agent on the STA
Yes: 20
No: 5
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13. Straw poll #2
July 2005
Which TG do you believe should include in its work goals the requirements derived from 05/0014r1 (E911 support)?
TGv: 6
TGu: 1
Revisit in November: 24
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14. Motion to Adjourn Moved: to adjourn Mover: Kevin Hayes
July 2005
Moved: to adjourn
Mover: Kevin Hayes
Seconder: Bob Miller
Passes: unanimous
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15. TGv Proposed Timeline The following time table will be used by TGv
July 2005
The following time table will be used by TGv
Internal Call for Substantive text: September 05 (due Nov 05)
In November we expect normative text to be contributed and the amendment editorial task will begin
TG Ad-Hoc Draft Internal Review: November 06
This will be an internal review, with an additional meeting (January) to address internal comments
First WG Letter Ballot: March 07
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16. Work completed First objectives document created (11-05/0642r1)
July 2005
First objectives document created (11-05/0642r1)
Work List updated (11-05/0796r0)
Reviewed four contributions
The following were found to be in scope:
11-05/0270r2 – Virtual AP Requirements – Pat Calhoun
11-05/0014r1 – E911 Support – Joe Kwak
11-05/0732r2 – Client Management Protocol – Tim Olson
The following will be discussed further in September:
11-05/0500r1 – Control Approaches – Joe Kwak
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17. Attendance Attendance: Tuesday AM: 26, PM: 34 Thursday: 29 July 2005
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18. Output Documents 11-05/0796r0 – TGV Work List
July 2005
11-05/0796r0 – TGV Work List
11-05/0642r1 – TGv Objectives
11-05/0644r0 – TGv July 2005 meeting report (this document)
11-05/0725r0 – TGv July 2005 meeting minutes
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19. Goals for September
July 2005
All new presentations will include specific requirements text, which follows the format in 05/0642r0
Present Load Balancing (05/0629r0) and Rate Control (05/0630r0)
Identify requirements text for 05/0732r0
Presentations listed under ‘Pending Work Items’ in 05/0224r5
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20. Adjourn Meeting adjourned at 12:15 on July 21, 2005 July 2005
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