1. JTC1 ad hoc Jan 2010 agenda 20 Jan 2010 Jan 2010 Authors: Jan 2010
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Jan 2010
JTC1 ad hoc Jan 2010 agenda
20 Jan 2010
Authors:
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

2. Jan 2010
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This presentation will be used to run the JTC1 Ad Hoc meetings in Los Angeles in January 2010
This presentation contains a proposed running order for the IEEE JTC1 Ad Hoc committee meeting in January 2010, including
Proposed agenda
Other supporting material
It will be modified during the meeting to include motions, straw polls and other material referred to during the meeting
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

3. Participants have a duty to inform in relation to patents
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Participants have a duty to inform in relation to patents
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy (IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2). Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
There is no duty to perform a patent search
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

4. There are a variety of patent related links
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There are a variety of patent related links
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

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A call for potentially essential patents is not required in the JTC1 ad hoc
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

6. Jan 2010
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The JTC1 ad hoc will operate using general guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

7. Links are available to a variety of other useful resources
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Links are available to a variety of other useful resources
Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation
Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines
Link to IEEE Code of Ethics
Link to IEEE Patent Policy
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

8. Jan 2010
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The JTC1 ad hoc will operate using accepted principles of meeting etiquette
IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization
Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly and professional manner in accordance with the policies and procedures governed by the organization.
Individuals are to address the “technical” content of the subject under consideration and refrain from making “personal” comments to or about the presenter.
The Copyright Act of 1976 made a dramatic change to U.S. copyright law. Copyright was now deemed to exist from the moment of creation. Thus anything that is created is deemed to be owned by its creator. Additionally, a work no longer needs to be published in order to be protected. Therefore, even your scribbles on a piece of note paper constitute copyrighted material that you own and control.
The NII (National Information Infrastructure) and the GII (Global Information Infrastructure) are causing lawmakers and copyright owners to assess the ability of current copyright law to protect owners rights in a digital environment. While at this point the changes being talked about are not significant, they will make it clear that copyright protection is afforded to owners in the digital environment making it a requirement to honor the rights accorded to owners.
It is a requirement under the IEEE Bylaws that copyright ownership of all material published by the IEEE resides with the IEEE. The Standards Department accomplishes the transfer of copyright ownership from the volunteer authors to the Institute via the Project Authorization Request (PAR) form.
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

9. The JTC1 Ad Hoc has a very general proposed agenda
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The JTC1 Ad Hoc has a very general proposed agenda
Tuesday PM2
Call to Order
Roll Call
Select recording secretary
Modify and approve agenda
Conduct meeting according to agenda
Recess
Thursday AM2
Call to Order
Roll Call
Select recording secretary
Continue meeting according to agenda
Adjourn
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco

10. The JTC1 Ad Hoc has a detailed list of agenda items to be considered
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The JTC1 Ad Hoc has a detailed list of agenda items to be considered
The agenda items that will be addressed this week are:
Approval of minutes from previous meetings
Review goals of JTC1 ad hoc
Review status of WAPI in ISO/IEC
Consider next steps by IEEE 802 in relation to WAPI
Consider inviting an expert to present WAPI to the IEEE meeting in Beijing in May 2010
Consider liaising all IEEE Sponsor Ballot drafts to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 as matter of course
Start technical review of WAPI
Discuss any other JTC1/SC6 liaison matters
Andrew Myles, Cisco

11. The JTC1 ad hoc will consider approving its agenda
Jan 2010
The JTC1 ad hoc will consider approving its agenda
Motion to approve agenda
The JTC1 ad hoc approves the agenda for its meeting in Los Angeles in Jan10, as documented on pages 9-10 of <file>
Moved:
Seconded
Result
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12. The JTC1 ad hoc will consider approval of previous minutes
Jan 2010
The JTC1 ad hoc will consider approval of previous minutes
Motion to approve minutes
The JTC1 ad hoc approves the minutes for its meeting in Atlanta in Nov 09, as documented in jtc-minutes-of-jtc1-ad-hoc-in-atlanta-in-november-2009.doc.doc
Moved:
Seconded
Result
Andrew Myles, Cisco

13. In Hawaii in Sept 09 the JTC1 ad hoc reaffirmed its general goals
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In Hawaii in Sept 09 the JTC1 ad hoc reaffirmed its general goals
Agreed goals
Provides a forum for members to discuss issues relevant to both:
IEEE 802
ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6
Recommends positions to ExCom on ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 actions affecting IEEE (and IEEE 802)
Note that 802 LMSC holds the liaison to SC6, not WG
Participates in dialog with IEEE staff and 802 ExCom on issues concerning IEEE’s relationship with ISO/IEC
Organises IEEE members to contribute to liaisons and other documents relevant to the ISO/IEC JTC1 members …
Andrew Myles, Cisco

14. Jan 2010
It was recognised in Hawaii in Sept 09 that WAPI is the main JTC1/SC6 related issue of interest
It was agreed in Hawaii in Sept 09 that WAPI remains an important and constant issue for consideration
This is the case for a variety of reasons, possibly including:
WAPI appears to duplicate functionality of i
The promoters of WAPI assert that i is insecure
Albeit without any apparent published evidence
WAPI has now been mandated in handsets with Wi-Fi in China
Note that this is despite i being an international standard and WAPI not being an international standard
There are claims in the Chinese academic literature that WAPI is insecure
It is unclear how or whether i and WAPI can coexist …
Andrew Myles, Cisco

15. Jan 2010
The new project proposal for WAPI in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 is flawed & may have copyright issues
WAPI has been submitted by the China to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 as a new project proposal
The ballot closes in early Feb 10
It is proposed that WAPI be standardised as a stand alone document
However, the draft document appears to violate IEEE copyright:
IEEE staff are dealing with this issue
In addition, the associated justification is flawed:
It claims that “It is a well known fact that current WLAN international standards contains serious security loopholes which need to be dealt with by enhanced security mechanisms”
However, the evidence provided has no relevance to the WPA2 aspects of i, instead focusing on WPA and WEP
Andrew Myles, Cisco

16. Jan 2010
The new project proposal for WAPI in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 is flawed & may have copyright issues
A liaison was sent from the IEEE 802 ExCom Chair related to this matter
See r1
The liaison has been received and is posted in the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 document directory
No formal response has been received
The next SC6 meeting is the same week as the IEEE meeting
Some informal feedback has been received from the SC6 meeting
Andrew Myles, Cisco

17. Jan 2010
WG sent a liaison to JTC1/SC6 in Nov 09 in relation to its intended use of the PSDO process
In November 2009 the WG sent a liaison ( r1) that
Documents recent and planned future activities in the IEEE WG
Flags an intention to submit various documents using the PDSO process
Offers JTC1 and SC6 NBs the opportunity to submit comments into the SB process
The liaison has been received and is posted in the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 document directory
Andrew Myles, Cisco

18. Jan 2010
WG could consider sending every SB draft to JTC1/SC6 as a matter of course
An informal response was received to the r1 liaison that suggested relations could be further improved by submitting SB drafts to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 as a matter of course
The goals would be to:
Improve relations with JTC1/SC6
Make it easier for NBs to provide review
The JTC1 ad hoc could consider
Recommending to the WG that all SB drafts be liaised to JTC1/SC6
Writing a new liaison that documents any such decision
Any liaison will be approved in the Thursday session
Andrew Myles, Cisco

19. Jan 2010
It has been suggested that a WAPI expert be invited to present WAPI in Beijing in May 2010
IEEE WG is holding an interim session in Beijing in May 2009
It has been suggested that it makes sense to invite an appropriate expert to provide a WAPI tutorial
Issues that need to be addressed include:
Who should be invited?
BWIPS? WAPIA? IWNCOMM?
In what which forum should they present?
JTC1 ad hoc, WNG, WG, tutorial?
Any invitation will be approved in the Thursday session
Andrew Myles, Cisco

20. Jan 2010
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The JTC1 ad hoc will start a technical review of the WAPI specification
It is probably appropriate to start reviewing WAPI from a technical perspective given the NP (if approved) will start soon
Dan Harkins has submitted a review of WAI to Mentor:
See jtc-security-analysis-of-wai
Dan will present his findings and lead a discussion
Andrew Myles, Cisco
Andrew Myles, Cisco