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January 2013 TGac Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 January 2013 TGac Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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IEEE 802.11ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group
January 2013 IEEE ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group Santa Clara, CA January 10-11, 2013 Chair: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Vice Chair: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) Vice Chair: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey (Apple) Secretary: David Yang (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 3 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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Patent Policy Following 5 slides January 2013 May 2012
doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Instructions for the WG Chair
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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January 2013 Host Information Thanks to Eldad Perahia and Intel for hosting the meeting Host announcements, if any. Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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General Flow of the Meeting
January 2013 General Flow of the Meeting Thursday (9:00 am – 5:00 pm) Administrivia Editor Report Comment Resolution Friday (9:00 am – 5:00 pm) Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, January 10th , 09:00 – 17:00
TG meeting call to order Patent policy, etc Host Information Editor Report Call for submissions Set and approve genda Comment Resolution Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 January 2013 Submissions 11-12/1295r3,” LB 190 Annex B Comment Resolution”, Osama Aboul-Magd 11-12/1405, “LB190 MAC comment resolutions Menzo », Menzo Wentink 11-12/1448, “d4 comment resolution brianh part3” Brian Hart 11-13/0048, “lb190 once upon a comment response”, Matthew Fischer 11-13/0058, “LB190 MAC comments resolution” Chao-Chun 11-13/0054, “Proposed Resolution on CID 7103” Youhan Kim 11-13/0056, “VHTLTF Equation”, Hogyuan Zhang 11-12/1438r2, “Miscellaneous PHY Comments Resolution for LB 190” Yusuke Asai Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Schedule for Thursday (Tentative)
January 2013 Schedule for Thursday (Tentative) 9:00 – 9:15 Call meeting to order and IPR policy 9:15 – 9:30 Editor Report 9:30 -12:00 Comment Resolution Submissions 12:00 – 1:00 Lunch Break 1:00 – 2:50 Comment Resolution Submissions 3:00 – 5:00 Comment Resolution Submissions 5:00 Recess Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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Editor Report Robert Stacey (or Osama Aboul-Magd)
January 2013 Editor Report Robert Stacey (or Osama Aboul-Magd) Comment resolution spread sheet: Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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CID STATUS January 2013 Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies) Assignee
Ad Hoc DCN Andrew Myles/Dan Harkins 7020, 7017, 7282, 7310 MAC Brian 7021, 7150, 7165, 7156, 7153, 7152, 7149, 7151, 7100, 7131, 7395, 7318, 7315 11-12/1448r0 Chao-Chun 7384, 7385, 7203, 7204, 7201, 7202, 7228, 7246, 7247, 7248, 7249 11-13/0058 Eric 7347, 7346 11-12/1316r2- pending Menzo’s review Jae Seung 7023, 7022, 7024, 7285, 7253 Mark 7326, 7325, 7388, 7368, 7363, 7364, 7367, 7369, 7371, 7365, 7025 7316 Not attending the ad hoc Matt 7180, 7168, 7167, 7026, 7324, 7336, 7335, 7328, 7331, 7396, 7397, 7398, 7213, 7232, 7233 11-13/0048r1 Menzo 7139, 7138, 7019, 7018, 7099, 7004, 7087, 7343, 7341, 7327, 7330, 7221, 7211, 7399, 7306, 7307, 7231, 7238 11-12/1405r1 Osama 7332 11-12/1295r3 Robert 7381 Youhan 7103 PHY Yusuke 7063, 7102, 7183, 7029, 7031, 7033, 7050, 7051, 7052, 7032, 7226, 7263, 7264, 7182, 7234 11-12/1438r0 7226 is still pending Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to resolutions of CIDs, 7150, 7156, 7153, 7152, 7149, 7151, 7100, 7131, 7395, 7318, 7315 in doc 11-12/1448r1? No objection noted CID 7165 is deferred. Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you accept changes to Equation in doc 11-13/0056r1? No objection noted. Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolution of CID 7103 in doc 11-13/0054r0? No objection noted. Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolution of CID 7226 in doc 11-12/1438r3? Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolutions of CIDs 7201, 7202, 7203, 7247, 7248, 7249, 7228, 7246, 7384, 7204 in doc 11-13/0058r0? No SP was run. CIDs in green are resolved. The document will be visited for the rest of the CIDs. Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolution of CIDs 7018, 7019, 7087, 7099, 7138, 7139, 7211, 7238, 7306, 7307, 7330, 7004, and 7341 in doc 1405r2? No objection to resolutions of the above CIDs. Do you agree to the resolution of 7221 and 7343 in doc Yes : 15 No: 1 Pre-motion passes Do you agree to the resolution of 7327 in doc Yes:15 No: 1 Pre-motion passes Do you agree to the resolution of 7339 in doc Yes: 12, No:0, A:3 Pre-motion passes Do you agree to the resolution of 7231 in doc Yes: 12, No. 0, A 2 Pre-motion passes Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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January 2013 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolutions of CIDs 7180, 7168, 7167, 26, 7324, 7331, 7397, 7398, 7232, 7233, 7328, 7336, 7335, 7396, 7213 in doc 11-13/0048r1? Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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Agenda for Friday, January 11th, 9:00 – 17:00
Comment Resolution Editor Report Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (HuaweiTechnologies)
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