1. Don Wright Director of Standards Lexmark International don@lexmark.com
P2600 Hardcopy Device and System Security February 2009 Working Group Meeting
Don Wright
Director of Standards
Lexmark International
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2. Opening Agenda Items Self Introductions Approval of the Agenda
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3. Agenda Items Thursday/Friday, February 19-20 Welcome & Introductions
Update and Approve Agenda
Review and approve December Minutes
IEEE Patent Policy Review
2009 Meeting Schedule
Update on PWG-IDS/TCG (Nevo)
Update on INCITS CS1 Working Group (Thrasher)
Update of CC Vendor's Forum (Smithson)
Review of Action Items from December Meeting
PP Evaluation ad hoc status (Nevo)
Evaluation Status (Smithson/atsec)
Other issues raised on
Free availability of PP-C & PP-D ( )
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4. Agenda Items Thursday/Friday, February 19-20
Sponsor Ballot Recirculation 1 Comments
P Comments
P Comments
P Comments
P Comments
Comparison of IEEE Std 2600 versus the Profiles
Thrasher's Comparison
Smithson's Comparison
Protection Profiles
PP-A (41c)
PP-B (41c)
PP-C (41b)
PP-D (41b)
Comments on PPs
PP-A
PP-B (none)
PP-C
PP-D (none)
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5. Agenda Items Thursday/Friday, February 19-20
Guide to P2600 PPs ad hoc (Sukert) * Friday AM *
Version 41a
Comments
Production Printing Profile (Sukert) * Friday AM *
Schedule Review
Other items
Posting and Comment deadlines for the March Meeting
Next meeting details
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6. Minutes from December Meeting
Minutes were published shortly after the meeting.
They are available at:
Any additions, deletions or corrections to these minutes?
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7. Instructions for the WG Chair
The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee:
Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation
Advise the WG attendees that:
The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;
Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged;
There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.
Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting:
That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown;
That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard
Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.
The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance.
It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference.
Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board.
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(Optional to be shown)

8. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
(Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2)
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
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9. Patent Related Links
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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10. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
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Slide #3

11. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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12. 2009 Meeting Schedule March 19-20, 2009 (Cupertino, CA @ Ricoh)
April 30 - May 1 (Mt. Laurel, Oki with the PWG)
July 14-15, 2009 (tentative, if needed)
How many do we need?
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13. PWG-IDS/Trusted Computing Group
Update
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14. INCITS CS1 : Cyber-Security
Update
Thrasher
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15. CC Vendors Forum
Update
Sukert/Smithson
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16. Action Items from Previous Meetings
Review entries in P2600-action-items excel spreadsheet
Pre-meeting Spreadsheet
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17. Old Business PP Evaluation ad hoc (Nevo)
Evaluation Status (Smithson/atsec)
atsec report reviewed
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18. Issues raised on e-mail
Free availability of PP-C & PP-D ( )
Would your company be willing to contribute funds to make PP-C and PP-D freely available? ($16,800 divided by number of companies contributing for both or $5100 divided by number of companies contributing for only one.)
If so, which?
PP-C?
PP-D?
Both?
What’s the upper limit on your contribution?
Deadline for commitment – March 18th
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19. Recirculation Ballot Sponsor Ballot Recirculation 1 Comments
P Comments
P Comments
P Comments
P Comments
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20. PP-C changes (1)
Following up on yesterday's discussion in the P2600 meeting, here are the proposed changes to PP-C to address Nancy Chen's comments:
5.3.2 change "three" to "two"
remove this clause
10.4 remove FDP_ACC.1 and FDP_ACF.1
10.6 remove FMT_MSA.1 and FMT_MSA.3
10.12 adjust rationale tables accordingly
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21. PP-C changes (2) PP APPLICATION NOTE 5 change from:
In this environment, a Normal User may be authorized by the TOE, by the IT environment (for example an external pay-per-use mechanism), or by the non-IT environment (for example, by being permitted to physically access the TOE). The ST Author should identify which mechanism or mechanisms are supported by the conforming TOE and add appropriate objectives for the TOE, IT environment or non-IT environment, and also add appropriate SFRs if there is an objective for the TOE.
to:
This Protection Profile does not specify or require any authorization for Normal Users to perform non-administrative functions of the TOE. However, in this operational environment, it may be desired for Normal Users to be authorized by the TOE, by the IT environment (for example an external pay-per-use mechanism), or by the non-IT environment (for example, by being permitted to physically access the TOE). If such authorization is desired, then the ST Author should identify which mechanism or mechanisms are supported by the conforming TOE, add appropriate threats or OSPs, and add appropriate objectives for the TOE, IT environment or non-IT environment. If there is an authorization objective for the TOE, the ST Author should also add appropriate SFRs (e.g., FDP_ACC.1, FDP_ACF.1, FMT_MSA.1, and FMT_MSA.3).
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22. PP-D changes There is a small related change needed in PP-D:
5.3.2 change "three" to "two"
remove this clause
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23. P2600 vs PPs Comparison of IEEE Std 2600 versus the Profiles
Thrasher's Comparison
Smithson's Comparison
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24. Protection Profiles Protection Profiles Comments on PPs PP-A (41c)
PP-B (41c)
PP-C (41b)
PP-D (41b)
Comments on PPs
PP-A
PP-B (none)
PP-C
PP-D (none)
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25. PP Guide Ad Hoc Team Guide to P2600 PPs status (Sukert) * Friday AM *
Version 41a
Comments
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26. Production Printing Protection Profile
Production Printing Profile (Sukert) * Friday AM *
Version 41a
Comments
Discussion on the need and plan for doing a PP-E
People expressing a potential interest
Lewis (InfoPrint)
Aubry (Oce)
Sukert (Xerox)
Nevo (Sharp)
Del Re (Canon)
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27. Project Schedule
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28. Other Items
None
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29. March Meeting Deadlines
Documents are under change control
All comments must be in the tool
The editor may not make changes EXCEPT based on submitted and accepted comments.
PP-A, B, C & D are closed for commenting!!!
Posting of Documents: March 5, 2009
Posting of Comments: March 12, 2008
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30. Next Meeting Details
March 19-20
Ricoh Americas Corporation Bubb Road Cupertino, CA 95014
Directions, parking, and building access:
No Hotel
No Meeting Fee
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31. Next Meeting Location Map
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32. Thanks!
See you in Cupertino!!
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33. Back-up Charts
BACK-UP CHARTS
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34. Mailing List and Web Site
Listserv run by the IEEE
An archive is available on the web site
Subscribe via a note to: containing the line: subscribe stds-2600
Only subscribers may send to the mailing list.
No Change
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