1. LAMAS Working Group 17-18 June 2015
Agenda Item 2.4 Measurement of employment and unemployment

2. Contents Input harmonisation in EU-LFS
Timing of introduction of model questionnaire
Conscripts
The Italian case of CIG

3. Input harmonisation in EU-LFS
Model questionnaires not into legal basis
Further discussions at DSS and DSS Board
Detailed proposal for December 2015 LAMAS

4. Timing of introduction of model questionnaire
Big bang necessary
Issue for EU2020 indicators
Tests for dual collection forthcoming (Romania)
Decision for June 2016 LAMAS

5. Treatment of conscripts in EU-LFS - 1
Small group, but special
Clearly defined as employed by ICLS resolutions (old and new)
New resolution limits it to paid conscripts
All conscripts in the EU are paid (something)

6. Treatment of conscripts in EU-LFS - 2
Eight countries show conscripts in results
Either through WSTATOR or MAINSTAT
Important distinction!
5 countries almost equal
2 countries MAINSTAT only
1 country WSTATOR only

8. Treatment of conscripts in EU-LFS - 3
Eurostat excludes all WSTATOR-conscripts from population
EL, CY, AT use same approach
DK, NO count them as employed, FI, EE as inactive
CH counts them depending on other responses

9. Treatment of conscripts in EU-LFS - 4
Effects of including them in employment:
Strong effects in CY
Sizable in two countries (EE, FI)
Small in four countries (DK, AT, NO, CH)
Unknown in EL

10. Treatment of conscripts in EU-LFS - 5
Future LFS will keep only category in MAINSTAT
Include in target population for labour market indicators?

11. LAMAS is asked
to give views on the treatment of conscripts.
Member States that feel left out in the analysis should raise their hand!
Member States which currently do not cover or have under-coverage of conscripts are invited to give views on the feasibility of changing the current situation.

12. The Italian case of CIG - 1
Typically translated as lay-offs
LAMAS endorsed in December meeting the operational definition, according to which lay-offs are employed only if they are absent for less than three months
Specific national system, as such not included in operational definition
Currently partly defined as employed via SIGNISAL

13. The Italian case of CIG - 2
SIGNISAL disappears
Only included if absent for <3 months
In 2013 figures: from 83% of CIG counted as employed now only 28% counted as employed
IT counts them as employed in e.g. NA

14. The Italian case of CIG - 3
TF HMEU valued a rule based on duration over a rule on a specific payment in one country
The TF opinion is clear, CIG are only employed for first three months
LAMAS is asked to give its views