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TGy March Opening Report
doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy March Opening Report Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Abstract This submission summarizes the TGy agenda for IEEE Orlando (March 2007) meeting Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Opening Report March 2007 March 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0373r1
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Attendance Recording -802.11
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Attendance Recording Sign-in at “newton” is a local server, not reachable via a VPN “newton” is active only during sessions First “sign in” to provide contact information Only name and affiliation may be posted publicly, as per IEEE rules No other personal information will not be publicly available Second, log attendance Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Membership & Anti-Trust
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Membership & Anti-Trust Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Anti-Trust laws The Anti-Trust laws forbid the discussion of prices within our meetings. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems 26 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Reference - http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Reference - Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 (Revised January 2006) Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Declaration of Affiliation
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Declaration of Affiliation Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw Openness Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open toa all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Copyright Under the current US copyright law — the author of information is deemed to own the copyright from the moment of creation The IEEE Bylaws require copyright of all material to be held by the IEEE Must consult with IEEE for re-use of copyright material The IEEE Standards accomplishes transfer of copyright ownership through the Project Authorization Request (PAR) process The Copyright Act of 1976 made a dramatic change to U.S. copyright law. Copyright was now deemed to exist from the moment of creation. Thus anything that is created is deemed to be owned by its creator. Additionally, a work no longer needs to be published in order to be protected. Therefore, even your scribbles on a piece of note paper constitute copyrighted material that you own and control. The NII (National Information Infrastructure) and the GII (Global Information Infrastructure) are causing lawmakers and copyright owners to assess the ability of current copyright law to protect owners rights in a digital environment. While at this point the changes being talked about are not significant, they will make it clear that copyright protection is afforded to owners in the digital environment making it a requirement to honor the rights accorded to owners. It is a requirement under the IEEE Bylaws that copyright ownership of all material published by the IEEE resides with the IEEE. The Standards Department accomplishes the transfer of copyright ownership from the volunteer authors to the Institute via the Project Authorization Request (PAR) form. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Equipment Well-dressed criminals often enter meetings and steal laptops, PDAs, and similar devices Do not leave your devices unattended!! Make sure you log your attendance = newton Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Goals for Orlando Resolve LB94 Ballot comments
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Goals for Orlando Resolve LB94 Ballot comments Planning through July 2007 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Agenda Monday 16:00 March 2007 March 2007
doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Agenda Monday 16:00 * CBP TG Meeting Call To Order - Chair 1 16:00 Review IEEE/802 & Policies and Rules Chair/All 8 16:01 Approve or Modify Agenda 5 16:09 II Review and Approve All Minutes 10 16:14 DT Set, Review Objectives All 16:24 Review of situation 16:29 Overview presentation, PHY, MAC topics 30 16:39 LB94 comment review 51 17:09 Recess until 08:00 Tuesday 0 18:00 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Agenda Tuesday 08:00 March 2007 March 2007
doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Agenda Tuesday 08:00 * CBP TG Meeting Call To Order - Chair 1 08:00 Situation, ballot comments, draft topics Chair/All 59 08:01 Joint .11y/.16h/.19 session "Modeling radio operation in the US 3650 MHz band" 60 9:00 Recess until 8:00 Thursday 10:00 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Agenda Thursday 08:00 March 2007 March 2007
doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Agenda Thursday 08:00 * CBP TG Meeting Call To Order - Chair 1 08:00 Situation, ballot comments, draft topics Chair/All 119 08:01 Recess until 16:00 Thursday 10:00 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Agenda Thursday 16:00 March 2007 March 2007
doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Agenda Thursday 16:00 * CBP TG Meeting Call To Order - Chair 1 16:00 Draft D1.xx and 2.0y topics All 90 16:01 Planning through Jul 07 and Motions for WG 29 17:31 Adjourn 18:00 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Minutes (Re-) review Any Modifications of the Minutes from CBP-TG
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Minutes (Re-) review Any Modifications of the Minutes from CBP-TG Dallas 06/1871r0, London 07/0121r0 Any Modifications of the Minutes from teleconferences Dec 5th, Dec 19th, Jan 2nd, Jan 9th; Jan 30th, Feb 13th, Feb 27th, Mar 6th 06/1917r0; 07/0224r0, 07/0251r0, 07/0291r0, 07/0303r0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motions (1) Motion: Move to approve TGy minutes of meetings and teleconferences from Dallas plenary to today: Dallas 06/1871r0, London 07/0121r0; teleconferences Dec 5th, Dec 19th, Jan 2nd, Jan 9th; Jan 30th, Feb 13th, Feb 27th, Mar 6th, 06/1917r0; 07/0224r0, 07/0251r0, 07/0291r0, 07/0303r0 Moved: Doug Chan Second: Dick Roy Vote: Motion: Passes Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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PAR Scope, Purpose Scope of Proposed Project:
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 PAR Scope, Purpose Scope of Proposed Project: The scope of the proposed project is the application of based systems to the MHz band in the USA. Purpose of Proposed Project: The purpose of this project is to standardize the mechanisms required to allow shared operation with other users in the MHz band in the USA. Likely required mechanisms include: Specification of new regulatory classes (extending j) Sensing of other transmitters (extending a) Transmit Power Control (extending h) Dynamic Frequency Selection (extending h) Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Purpose, Principles
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Purpose, Principles Purpose : the Task Group should create an amendment whose implementation in solutions is likely to receive FCC approval for operation in MHz under the 47 CFR 90 subpart z rules. Principles : If the FCC changes the rules, the Task Group should change the amendment accordingly. The amendment should not duplicate functionality that is being standardized in other Task Groups that are likely to complete before y. (Examples include parts of k and w) There is no need for backwards compatibility with 2.45 GHz ISM operation. The amendment should exclude some optional MAC and PHY behaviour, e.g. Point Coordination Function, FH, DSSS, and ERP. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Vision/Outcome Use the OFDM PHY with 5-, 10- and 20-MHz channel widths, and extend DFS to operate with other primary band users, to specify the basis for a system that the FCC can approve for operation in the US MHz band. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Proposal of 06/1023r0 The way forward for TGy
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Proposal of 06/1023r0 The way forward for TGy Clause 17 OFDM PHY, TPC and DFS procedures, use a non-overlapping channel plan, improve CCA for coexistence, use 5-, 10-, 20-MHz channel widths, and Regulatory Class/Coverage Class for outdoor operation Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Four Themes of TGy Interference Identification and Resolution,
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Four Themes of TGy Interference Identification and Resolution, Enablement, Energy Detect operation with the clause 17 PHY, and Mechanisms for use by licensees to control dependent stations. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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TGy Work completed to 13 Mar, 2007
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 TGy Work completed to 13 Mar, 2007 WG Letter Ballot was conducted on P802.11y D1.0, 695 comments are recorded in 07/0008r10 LB94 results (as announced 17 January by WG chair) Voter pool 347, 325 ballots received Approved 182, Do not approve 59, Abstain 71 (approval rate 75.1%, passes) Teleconferences discussed submissions resolving all (except Comment 209) technical comments, and those submissions have been on the server since March 6th. Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Review LB94 comments and Submissions
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Review LB94 comments and Submissions 11-07/0008r10 has all received comments Review OverView sheet, ‘Master LB94’ sheet y-TGy-LB Submission.doc y-TGy-LB Submission.doc y-TGy-LB94-a-d-i-j-submission-doc.doc y-phy-comments.doc y-TGy-LB94-17-etc-Submission.doc Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motions (2) Motion: Move to accept draft normative text changes in submissions r3, r1, /r4, r1, r0, and merge their comment resolutions into r10, and instruct the editor to prepare P802.11y D1.1 Moved: Dick Roy Second: Dan Lubar Vote: Motion: Passes Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Next step is to review modified draft
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Next step is to review modified draft P802.11y/D1.1 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 CCA ED discussion Just as PMD_ED.request sets the threshold to enable the PMD_ED, a PHY_CS.request could be specified to set the threshold of the minimum carrier indicate level. Then PHY_CS and PHY_ED thresholds can be controlled to suite the operation of the STA 07/0272r1 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 802.16h – y – : Modeling radio operation in a shared band Agenda Contributions John Sydor - C /017r1 - Simulation of IEEE h and IEEE y Coexistence Paul Piggin - C /038 - Simulating coexistence between y and h systems in the 3.65GHz band – Scenarios and assumptions Mariana Goldhamer - C /039r1 - Interference between systems sharing spectrum in 3.65GHz Guidance for presenters Max. 10 min for presentation, max. 3 min. discussion Meeting targets Provide the parameters for typical y implementation (radio, protocol, fragmentation) Provide feedback related to problems raised by h Moving forward in a collaborative way Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Thursday morning Presentation on RTS long slot time 07/0401r0
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Thursday morning Presentation on RTS long slot time 07/0401r0 Comments in D1.2 CIDs that will be resolved in D1.2 Comments that were Accepted, but not shown in D1.1: 21, 26, 54, 76, 217, 256, 304, 307, 308, 324, 325, 329, 334, 366, 373, 457, 533 and 680 Comments that were marked Accept in 0008/r10 but changed to Counter per Voted Submissions, and not shown in D1.1: Counter based on submission 07/0245r3: 201, 293, 351 and 520 Counter based on submission 07/270r1: 455 Counter based on submission 07/0272r1: 72, 74 and 268 Counter based on submission 07/0282r0: 73 and 162 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion (3) Move to accept submission 07/0473r0, and merge their comment resolutions into r11, and instruct the editor to prepare P802.11y D1.2. Moved: Vinko Second: Amer Vote: 7-0-0 Motion: Passes Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motions (4) Motion: Move to accept the resolutions for TGy LB94 comments as written in spreadsheet document 07/0008r12. Moved: Second: Vote: Motion: Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 Motions (5) Motion: Moved: Instruct the technical editor to rename y draft 1.2 as P802.11y draft 2.0. Having addressed all comments arising from the WG Letter Ballot 94, Task Group y resolves to forward P802.11y draft 2.0 to the working group for the purpose of conducting a 15-day recirculation letter ballot. The purpose of the working group letter ballot is to forward the draft to sponsor ballot. –The text of the motion to be presented to the working group will be “Move to authorize a 15-day Working Group Recirculation Letter Ballot of P802.11y draft 2.0, asking the question “Should the P802.11y draft 2.0 be forwarded to sponsor ballot?”” Moved: Second: Vote: Motion: Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion (6) Move to forward to the WG and the SEC, for conditional approval under Clause 20, the P802.11y draft to Sponsor Ballot Moved Seconded Vote Motion Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 Motion (7) Move to ask the WG to approve requests for assignment by the ANA of three Element IDs, one Spectrum management Action Value, and Regulatory Class values for 5-, 10- and 20-MHz channel bandwidths. Moved Seconded Vote Motion Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond Completed Steps | Future Steps Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria Technical Presentations and Discussions Specify Any Additional Requirements, Comparison Criteria, or Other Documents Call For Proposals Presentation of Proposals Select from Submitted Complete Proposals to Produce a Draft Refine Draft Letter Ballot – November 2006 Recirculation – March 2007 Sponsor Ballot – May 2007(?) Recirculation Final WG/EC Approval IEEE SB REVCOM Approval Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution Call for Informal Comments Comment Resolution WG Letter Ballot Comment Resolution, Recirculation Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution, Recirculation Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Schedule Projected at Orlando (Mar)
March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Schedule Projected at Orlando (Mar) November 2006 (Dallas, Texas) Letter Ballot Authorization by WG January 2007 (London, England) Comment Resolution March 2007 (Orlando, Florida) First Letter Ballot Re-circulation, Conditional SB authorization by WG, EC May 2007 (Montreal, Quebec) SB criteria met is agreed by WG July 2007 (San Francisco, California) Comment Resolution, First Sponsor Ballot Re-circulation authorized September 2007 (Waikoloa, Hawaii) Comment Resolution, 2nd SB Re-circ November 2007 (Atlanta, Georgia) Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution, done Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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Motion Moved Moved: Seconded: Vote: Motion: March 2007
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion Move to authorize a 15-day Working Group Recirculation Letter Ballot of P802.11y draft 2.0, asking the question “Should the P802.11y draft 2.0 be forwarded to sponsor ballot?” Moved by Peter Ecclesine on behalf of the Task Group. Task Group Vote: Moved XXX Second XXX Result: 0-0-0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion Move to grant conditional approval, under Clause 20, to forward the P802.11y draft to Sponsor Ballot. Moved by Peter Ecclesine on behalf of the Task Group. Task Group Vote: Moved XXX Second XXX Result: 0-0-0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Attendance Monday PM2: 17 Tuesday AM1: 45 (joint .11y/.16h/.19 meeting) Thursday AM1: 8 Thursday PM2: Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion Move to authorize a 15-day Recirculation Letter Ballot of TGy, draft 1.1 to conclude no later than 00/00/0000. Moved by XXX on behalf of the Task Group. Task Group Vote: Moved XXX Second XXX Result: 0-0-0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion Move to approve the comment response in document xx/xxxrx, believing that comment responses in the document mentioned above and the draft x draft 0.0 demonstrate that the WG LB rules have reached an orderly endpoint. Moved by XXX on behalf of the Task Group. Task Group Vote: Moved XXX Second XXX Result: 0-0-0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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March 2007 doc.: IEEE /0373r1 March 2007 Motion Move to authorize TGx to hold an Ad-Hoc meeting the (Month Day Year) to (Month Day Year) for the purpose of (description). Moved by XXX on behalf of the Task Group. Task Group Vote: Moved XXX Second XXX Result: 0-0-0 Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems
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