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Explanations on CID #10076 Date: 2006-05-15 Authors: May 2006 May 2006
doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 Explanations on CID #10076 Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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May 2006 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 Abstract I submitted a comments to improve description of D1.0 for Fast link adaptation CID#10076 During ad hoc at Jacksonville, this was deferred, and I should prepare submission. I would explain potential problems here and proposed solutions. Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem
May 2006 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem Now, clause (on page 118) says “If the responder discards or abandons computation for an MRQ, it should indicate this to the sender by setting the MFB to “all-ones” in the next transmission of a frame addressed to the sender that includes the HT Control field. The value of the MFS is set to the MRS value to indicate to the sender the correspondence to the MRQ that was discarded.” But, there is no guarantee that the number of HTC in one direction is identical or close to the number of HTC in another direction. Extreme case would be SIFS/RIFS bursting, shown in the next slide. In such case, the responder cannot send MFB of “all-ones” and the initiator should not expect MFB response indicating discard/abandon. Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem (cont’d)
May 2006 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem (cont’d) Example; using SIFS/RIFS bursting single-address, and each MPDU from STA_A to STA-B has with HTC including MRQ Each MRQ would be sent with different MRS (Sequence number) There are three MRQs, but only one MFB would be sent as a response. How to signal MFB=‘111’ for the rest two ? SHOULD we send MFBs, even if they would be too aged to track MRS/MFS? SIFS/RIFS Bursting Data MPDU Data MPDU Data MPDU Data MPDU STA-A MRQ in HTC MRQ in HTC MRQ in HTC MRQ in HTC BA STA-B MFB in HTC Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem (cont’d)
May 2006 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 CID #10076 : Current text and its potential problem (cont’d) Other related issue In clause , there is a description; “If the MCS estimate is not available in time and if the HT Control field is included in the immediate response frame, the responder may set MFB to the default value “all-ones” following the MFS/MRS rules.” There is no way to distinguish “delay (means MFB would be available later)” and “discard/abandon” It would not be so useful to check MRS/MFS matching for all of MFB=“111” cases, especially for example shown in the previous slide. In these cases, using the latest MFB would be a good choice. So, using MFB=“111” to indicate discard/abandon in clause would not be a relatively strong recommendation, such as using “should”. Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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May 2006 doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 May 2006 CID #10076 : proposed change Change “should” at line-26 on page-119 (clause ) to “may” As a result, text would become; “If the responder discards or abandons computation for an MRQ, it may indicate this to the sender by setting the MFB to “all-ones” in the next transmission of a frame addressed to the sender that includes the HT Control field. The value of the MFS is set to the MRS value to indicate to the sender the correspondence to the MRQ that was discarded.” Any comments/feedbacks/questions ? Tomoya Yamaura (Sony) Tomoya Yamaura (Sony)
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