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1 TGad November 2009 Report Date: 2009-11-17 Authors: November 2009
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 TGad November 2009 Report Date: Authors: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

2 November 2009 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

3 Register Indicate attendance Attendance
November 2009 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

4 Attendance, Voting & Document Status
November 2009 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

5 Patent Policy Following 5 slides November 2009 April 2007
doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

6 Instructions for the WG Chair
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

7 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

8 Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

9 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

10 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

11 Agenda Items for the Week
November 2009 Agenda Items for the Week Call for secretary Review from September Review conference calls Approve minutes from September Continue developing task group documents Evaluation methodology Channel modeling Selection Procedure / Call for proposals Functional requirements Technical Submissions Motions of drafts of task group documents Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

12 TGad Agenda for the Week
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 TGad Agenda for the Week Tuesday Nov 17th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Patent policy, etc. Set agenda Call for submissions Review from September Approve minutes from September Review from conference calls Presentations Tuesday Nov 17th, 16:00 – 18:00 Evaluation methodology doc development Channel modeling doc development Wednesday Nov 18th, 16:00 – 18:00 Thursday Nov 19th, 10:30 – 12:30 Call for secretary Evaluation methodology doc development Channel modeling doc development Motions on drafts of Evaluation methodology and Channel modeling documents Selection procedure and Call for Proposal doc development Motions on drafts of Selection procedure and Call for Proposal documents Presentations Thursday Nov 19th, 16:00 – 18:00 Motions on drafts on task group documents Goals for January Conference calls Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

13 Agenda for November 17th, 13:30 – 15:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Agenda for November 17th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Patent policy, etc. Set agenda Call for submissions Review from September Approve minutes from September Review from conference calls Presentations Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

14 Submissions November 2009 April 2007 doc.: IEEE 802.11-07/0570r0
Evaluation Methodology, Tues PM2, Wed PM2 (Th AM2 if necessary) 09/1160, Proposed Evaluation Methodology Additions, John Barr 09/1216, Internet traffic modeling, Sai Nandagopalan 09/1213, 60GHz Impairments Modeling, Vinko Erceg 09/1222r1, Hard disk drive traffic model, Eldad Perahia 09/1229, Application of 60 GHz Channel Models for Comparison of TGad Proposals, Alexander Maltsev 09/296r10, Update to Evaluation Methodology document, Eldad Perahia 09/1210, Coexistence Techniques, Tuncer Baykas, Th PM2 Channel Modeling, Tues PM2, Wed PM2, Th AM2 09/1252, Inter Cluster Parameters of Living Room Channel Model for 60 GHz WLAN Systems, Alexander Maltsev 09/1152, 60-GHz Living-Room Channel Measurements, Tian-Wei Huang 15min 09/1169, Human Body Blockage - Guidelines for TGad MAC development, Thomas Kürner 15min 09/1170, Modeling the human induced 60 GHz channel dynamics, Thomas Kürner 15min 09/1165, 60 GHz Cubicle Wall Reflectivity, Chris Hansen, Th PM2 09/1232, Intra-cluster response model and parameter for channel modeling at 60GHz (Part2), Hirokazu Sawada, Th PM2 09/334rX, Update to Channel Model document, Alexander Maltsev Selection procedure 09/1206, Draft Call for Proposals, Eldad Perahia, Th View on draft ad selection procedure, Kapsok, Th Other technical 09/1153, 60GHz Beamforming, Carlos Cordeiro, Tues PM1 09/1168, SCR Design and Performance Assessment, John Stine, Tues PM1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

15 Review from September November 2009 Channel Modeling Coexistence
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Review from September Channel Modeling 09/995r0, 60 GHz Transmission and Reflection Measurements, Tian-Wei Huang, 09/1011r0, Verification of Polarization Impact Model by Experimental Data, Alexander Maltsev 09/936r1, Intra-cluster response model and parameter for channel modeling at 60GHz, Hirokazu Sawada Coexistence 09/960r0, WirelessHD Coexistence, Jeyhan Karaoguz Selection procedure 09/0935r2, Selection Procedure, Matt Fisher 09/1024r0, Selection Change Proposal, John Barr 09/0935r3, Selection Procedure, Matt Fisher 09/1066r0, Proposed Modification to the Draft ad Selection Procedure, Rolf De Vegt 09/0935r4, Selection Procedure, Rolf De Vegt Motion to adopt 09/0935r3 as the first draft of the TGad selection procedure failed by vote of 26/11/9 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

16 November 2009 September Minutes Motion to approve September ‘09 TGad minutes as contained in r0 Move: James Gilb Second: Assaf Kasher No objection Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

17 Review of Conference Calls
November 2009 Review of Conference Calls Cumulative minutes in 09/229r7 October 29, :00 ET TGad Task Group Document Open Items (11-09/1108r0) Channel Modeling discussion November 12, :00 ET Path Loss Models for TGad Channel Models: Antenna and Dispersion Impact (11-09/1116r0) Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

18 Timeline November 2009 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Prepare task
Jan Mar May Sep Nov Selection Procedure begins Complete TG docs New Techniques complete proposals TGad Formed Confirmation Vote D1.0 spec available D2.0 spec available Start Sponsor ballot RevCom Standard Published 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Prepare task group documents Call for proposals and down selection / merger Comment resolution Comment resolution & recirculation ballots Comment resolution & recirculation ballots Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

19 Presentations for November 17th, 13:30 – 15:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Presentations for November 17th, 13:30 – 15:30 09/1153, 60GHz Beamforming, Carlos Cordeiro, Tues PM1 09/1168, SCR Design and Performance Assessment, John Stine, Tues PM1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

20 Presentations for November 17th, 16:00 – 18:00
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Presentations for November 17th, 16:00 – 18:00 09/1160, Proposed Evaluation Methodology Additions, John Barr 09/1216, Internet traffic modeling, Sai Nandagopalan 09/1213, 60GHz Impairments Modeling, Vinko Erceg 09/1222r1, Hard disk drive traffic model, Eldad Perahia Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

21 Presentations for November 18th, 16:00 – 18:00
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Presentations for November 18th, 16:00 – 18:00 09/1229r1, Application of 60 GHz Channel Models for Comparison of TGad Proposals, Alexander Maltsev 09/296r10, Update to Evaluation Methodology document, Eldad Perahia 09/1252, Inter Cluster Parameters of Living Room Channel Model for 60 GHz WLAN Systems, Alexander Maltsev 09/1169, Human Body Blockage - Guidelines for TGad MAC development, Thomas Kürner 09/1170, Modeling the human induced 60 GHz channel dynamics, Thomas Kürner 09/1152, 60-GHz Living-Room Channel Measurements, Tian-Wei Huang Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

22 Notes for November 18th, 16:00 – 18:00
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Notes for November 18th, 16:00 – 18:00 Strawpoll Do you prefer that we generate golden set of impulse response from stochastic model for each channel environment and antenna/beamforming combination? Yes: 11 No: 13 Abs: 26 Phase noise floor -150: 2 -130: 19 Abs: 18 No objection to change to single pole phase noise model Pole frequency of 1 MHz Yes: 14 No: 0 Abs: 20 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

23 Notes for November 19th, 10:30 – 12:30
Agenda Call for Proposal development Call for Proposal motion Evaluation methodology doc development Channel modeling doc development Motion on drafts of Evaluation methodology Motions on drafts Channel modeling documents Selection Procedure development Selection Procedure motion Presentations Motion to approve agenda Yes: 40 No: 1 Abs: 6 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

24 Motion Move to adopt 09/1206r0 as the TGad call for proposals
November 2009 Motion Move to adopt 09/1206r0 as the TGad call for proposals Mover: Vinko Seconder: Ganesh Yes: 50 No: 0 Abs: 19 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

25 Strawpoll Include ADC/DAC impairment to evaluation methodology? Yes: 5
November 2009 Strawpoll Include ADC/DAC impairment to evaluation methodology? Yes: 5 No: 34 Abs: 22 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

26 November 2009 Strawpoll Add section to evaluation methodology to measure proposals ability to detect preambles of: IEEE STD ECMA-387 Wireless HD (if publically available) Yes: 27 No: 33 Abs: 16 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

27 November 2009 Strawpoll Add section to evaluation methodology to measure ability of other 60 GHz systems to detect proposed preamble: IEEE STD ECMA-387 Wireless HD (if publically available) Yes: 27 No: 33 Abs: 17 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

28 Channel Model Presentations
November 2009 Channel Model Presentations 09/1169, Human Body Blockage - Guidelines for TGad MAC development, Thomas Kürner 09/1170, Modeling the human induced 60 GHz channel dynamics, Thomas Kürner 09/1152, 60-GHz Living-Room Channel Measurements, Tian-Wei Huang Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

29 November 2009 Motion Move to adopt 09/0296r12 as the first draft of the TGad evaluation methodology document Mover: Vinko Seconder: Ganesh Yes: 24 No: 20 Abs: 7 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

30 Agenda for November 19th, 16:00 – 18:00
Additional Evaluation Methodology presentations 09/1210, Coexistence Techniques, Tuncer Baykas Additional Channel Model presentations 09/1232, Intra-cluster response model and parameter for channel modeling at 60GHz (Part2), Hirokazu Sawada 09/1165, 60 GHz Cubicle Wall Reflectivity, Chris Hansen Selection Procedure presentations View on draft ad selection procedure, Kapsok Other Presentations Goals for January Conference calls Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

31 Notes for November 19th, 16:00 – 18:00
Strawpoll Do you support only having CMOS PA model for evaluation methodology? No objection Delete GaAs model from EVM doc Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

32 Goals for January Continue working on task group documents
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Goals for January Continue working on task group documents Technical contributions Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

33 Conference call times November 2009 Not overlap with TGac Dec 10 Jan 7
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 November 2009 Conference call times Not overlap with TGac Dec 10 10:00-12:00 ET Evaluation Methodology Jan 7 Channel Model Possible topics TG documents Functional Requirements Selection Procedure Channel modeling Summary of 15.3c documents for reference (system design, channel model) Coexistence Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation

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