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Law School and Beyond: What You Need to Know About The Law School Admissions Process Choosing Where to Apply to Law School David A. Reichard Professor of History and Legal Studies Division of Humanities and Communication (HCOM) Tel: This series is co-sponsored by the Division of Humanities and Communication and the Center for Advising, Career & Student Success
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Monday, September 12, 12-2 PM, Library 3145
Preparing for the LSAT Monday, September 12, 12-2 PM, Library 3145 The Law School Application Process Monday, September 19, 12-2 PM, Library, 3145 Choosing Where to Apply to Law School Monday, September 26, 12-2 PM, Library, 3145 What Makes a Good Personal Statement? Monday, October 3, 12-2 PM, Library, 3145 Lunch and Law Panel Monday, October 10, 12-2, University Center MUST RSVP
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Today’s Agenda Law school options Factors to look for Doing a self-evaluation Final questions—check in
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Types of Law Schools Research oriented law schools with international reputations for scholarship as well as solid teaching, accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Mid-range law schools, solid teaching and research by faculty, also accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Community-based law schools, staffed by part-time faculty—mostly working lawyers—which are not accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) but which are accredited by the state bar Unaccredited law schools EXAMPLES Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Chicago, Wisconsin, NYU, Cornell In California: Boalt Hall at UC Berkeley, UC Hastings Law School, Stanford, UCLA
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Types of Law Schools Research oriented law schools with international reputations for scholarship as well as solid teaching, accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Mid-range law schools, solid teaching and research by faculty, also accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Community-based law schools, staffed by part-time faculty—mostly working lawyers—which are not accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) but which are accredited by the state bar Unaccredited law schools EXAMPLES University of New Mexico School of Law, Villanova University School of Law, Pace University School of Law In California: Santa Clara Law School, Golden Gate Law School, University of San Francisco Law School, Loyola Law School, Whittier Law School, McGeorge School of Law of the University of the Pacific
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Types of Law Schools Research oriented law schools with international reputations for scholarship as well as solid teaching, accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Mid-range law schools, solid teaching and research by faculty, also accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Community-based law schools, staffed by part-time faculty—mostly working lawyers—which are not accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) but which are accredited by the state bar Unaccredited law schools EXAMPLES In California: Monterey College of Law, Lincoln Law School of San Jose, John F. Kennedy School of Law
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Types of Law Schools Research oriented law schools with international reputations for scholarship as well as solid teaching, accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Mid-range law schools, solid teaching and research by faculty, also accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) Community-based law schools, staffed by part-time faculty—mostly working lawyers—which are not accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) but which are accredited by the state bar Unaccredited law schools AVOID!
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply For more detail, see the ABA Standards for Accreditation for Sources for suggestions on the next slides include the Law School Admissions Council, the ABA, and the State Bar of California
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What is ABA accreditation— sometimes called “ABA approval”? What are the benefits of attending an ABA accredited school? What are the consequences of not attended an ABA accredited school? Accreditation process reviews aspects such as Curriculum Quality of faculty Financial aid processes Student services Library resources Bar passage rates Revisions in included: more attention to assessment of student learning outcomes—to include bar passage rates and employment Requires 6 credit hours of “experiential” learning—such as a clinic experience—and encourages at least 50 hours of “pro bono” community service Source: ABA
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What is ABA accreditation— sometimes called “ABA approval”? What are the benefits of attending an ABA accredited school? What are the consequences of not attended an ABA accredited school? Source: ABA Standards
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Source: ABA Standards
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What is ABA accreditation— sometimes called “ABA approval”? What are the benefits of attending an ABA accredited school? What are the consequences of not attended an ABA accredited school? Can sit for the bar examination in any state Ensure that school has gone through rigorous review process—and constantly monitored for quality This includes “law school's responsibility to assess an applicant's character and fitness qualifications and to advise applicants that such qualifications exist for admittance to the school and for admission to the bar.” Source: ABA
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What is ABA accreditation— sometimes called “ABA approval”? What are the benefits of attending an ABA accredited school? What are the consequences of not attended an ABA accredited school? In many states, a candidate “cannot sit for the bar examination unless that person holds a J.D. degree from an ABA-approved law school.” Some states “have additional requirements that a student must meet in order to qualify to sit for that state's examination” Check the requirements of state(s) where you wish to sit for the bar (find the ABA guide here). Source: ABA
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Key Requirements for Admission to the Bar in California: General education requirement: completion of at least 60 hours/90 quarter units college credit in good standing (Bachelor’s degree fulfills this) Determination of “good moral character” (see more about the requirement here) Required legal education—graduation from an ABA approved school, State Bar of California accredited school, four years of study in law office/judge’s chamber’s program (more here), or certain number of hours completed with unaccredited program Passage of Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam Passage of the California Bar Exam (see here for what is on the exam) Source: State Bar of California
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Choose a school where you will be challenged The diversity of student body Check on class size—both individual classes and “years” (for example, how many students in the first year class-sometimes called 1L-and how many in your course sections?) Types and number of student organizations
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply The diversity of the faculty Ratio of full time to part time faculty Academic reputation of faculty in terms of their research Availability of visiting faculty and other scholarly events
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Rankings—not used by ABA—but commonly available. Examples include: “Find the Best Law School” site US News and World Report Explore bar passage rates for schools you are considering
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Recent first time passage rates, California Bar Exam by rate of passage and numbers of exam takers Choosing Where to Apply School February 2016 July 2015 February 2015 July 2014 Golden Gate Not available 39% (48/122) 36% (8/22) 44% (64/146) Stanford 89% (87/98) 79% (11/14) 88% (92/105) Santa Clara 69% (122/176) 63% (20/32) 60% (131/217) UC Berkeley 85% (173/204) 100% (4/4) 88% (181/205) UC Hastings 68% (185/274) 56% (9/16) 68% (246/360) UCLA 85% (240/281) 71% (5/7) 82% (236/289) Whittier 38% (46/122) 30% (3/10) 43% (70/164) Monterey CL (Not ABA, CA Accredited 25% (2/8) 60% (6/10) 11% (1/9) Overall Passage Rates 46% CA ABA 17% CA Accred 14% CA Unaccr 68% CA ABA 21% CA Accred 21% CA Unaccr 54% CA ABA 30% CA Accred 35% CA Unaccr 69% CA ABA 33% CA Accred 23% CA Unaccr Source: State Bar of California
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Recent first time passage rates, California Bar Exam by rate of passage and numbers of exam takers Choosing Where to Apply School July 2015 Harvard 86% (80/93) NYU 86% (36/42) Duke 74% (17/23) Northwestern 79% (38/48) Yale 93% (28/30) Georgetown 71% (60/84) Arizona State 62% (8/13) Overall Passage Rates 59% ABA (not CA) Select out of state law schools with 10 or more bar exam takers Source: State Bar of California
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Cumulative Bar Exam Passage Rates, California Accredited Law Schools ( ) School Cumulative Rate Monterey College of Law 57% John F. Kennedy School of Law 63% Lincoln Law School, Sacramento 70% Empire College Law School 72% the “minimum, cumulative bar examination pass rate” (MPR) required for CALS is 40% Source: State Bar of California
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Facilities—classrooms, library, information technology Curriculum—especially beyond the first year Support for legal research and writing skill development Moot Court programs Clinical programs and internships Law Reviews and other journal opportunities Areas of specialization available (not necessary in law school) Joint degree programs Full-time and part-time programs
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply First Year Curriculum Fairly standard in U.S. law schools. Includes courses in the following areas: Criminal Law Torts Civil Procedure Property Contracts Legal Research and Writing And maybe…. Constitutional Law Moot Court can be a required part of Legal Research and Writing courses in law school
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Concentration or Specialization Areas While law school generally trains you in the essential basics of the law, after the first year, most law schools provide concentration areas for students to focus a portion of their studies Hastings College of Law: Examples include Civil Litigation and Dispute Resolution, Environmental Law, Government Law, Social Justice Lawyering Golden Gate Law School: Calls these “specialization certificates,” including Business Law, Litigation, and Public Interest Law Loyola Law School Los Angeles: Includes Corporate Law, Cybersecurity and Data Privacy, Intellectual Property, Immigrant Advocacy
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Examples of Clinical Programs University of New Mexico School of Law Criminal Law DWI and Domestic Violence Appellate Law Innocence and Justice Seminar Hastings College of Law Business Tax Practicum CJC Individual Representation—Health, Employment Community Economic Development Community Group Advocacy and Social Change Lawyering Criminal Practice Environmental Law Immigrant Rights And… several more
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Tutoring Mentoring programs Alumni mentoring (Loyola Law example) 2L and 3L mentoring programs for 1L students Student Disability Services
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply So you know…. Be prepared—at ABA accredited schools students cannot work the first year and law school is expensive! Important to prepare a budget—tuition, living expenses, books, insurance, transportation etc.
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Example: Hastings College of Law—Estimated Costs for Academic Year FIRST YEAR STUDENTS FALL SPRING TOTAL Enrollment Fees 21,747 43,486 Activity Fee 82 Housing and Utilities 15,768/ 9 mos. 15,768 Book Allowance 575 1,150 Food 3,240/9 mos. 3,240 Health Services Fee 317 316 633 Insurance 1,982 2,774 4,756 Transportation 1,432/9 mos. 1,432 Personal Expenses $2,520/9 mos. 2,520 Total Budget 72,985 WHAT?? Yes! But this “sticker price” can be offset by grants, scholarships
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Research Options The Law School Admissions Council (LSAC) has many kinds of resources about how to finance law school Watch this video tutorial Review this summary of options Research tips for funding laws school, such as U.S. News and World Report Explore loan programs, scholarships, veteran’s benefits, specific to each school Explore loan forgiveness programs—for example, public interest (see here for ABA information on this topic)
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Explore Scholarship Opportunities Internal scholarships—explore each law school’s financial aid website. Note—some not available to first year students Example: UC Irvine Law financial aid—note different types of funding Recruiting with money! More common now to offer a substantial discount for promising students Outside organizations Example: California Bar Foundation 1L Diversity Scholarships Law schools also advertise these—for example UC Irvine Outside Scholarships
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Some Factors to Consider in Selecting Where to Apply: ABA accreditation Student composition Quality of the faculty Overall reputation Learning environment Curriculum offered Clinical opportunities Academic support programs Cost and financial aid Career services Alumni networks Choosing Where to Apply Placement Center resources Career development opportunities—panel discussions, workshops on skill development On-campus interviewing opportunities? Support for seeking summer positions? Placement statistics—what are alumni of program doing? Availability of career advising after graduation? Alumni association—how active and involved with school?
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How To Research and Decide Which Law Schools Might Be for You ABA: ABA Disclosures database—search by school LSAC: LSAC website by LSAT and GPA Law school locators: Boston College link to various law school locaters Law school websites: For example, see Golden Gate, Santa Clara, UC Hastings, and McGeorge Attend a law school fair or open house: Upcoming ones include— October 20: LSAC Law School Recruitment Forum (San Francisco) (pre-registration required) October 29: Santa Clara Law School Open House (pre-registration required) Spend a day at a law school! Contact the admissions office of law schools you are interested in to see if this is possible (see UC Hastings College of Law example here)
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Self Evaluation Choosing Where to Apply Ask yourself the following questions as your research: How will law school contribute to my professional goals? Is law school the best choice for meeting those goals? Do my LSAT scores and GPA align with the schools I want to attend? What are my geographic preference/limitations? What law schools are located in that area? How do I plan to finance law school? Is an ABA accredited school my preference? Am I willing to entertain another option?
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