1. January 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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January 2011
January 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliation
Phone
Dee Denteneer
HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands
Philips
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2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2011
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Los Angeles, CA
January 17-20, 2011
Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips)
Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips)
Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony)
Secretary: Guenael Strutt (Powerwave Technologies)
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

3. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
January 2011
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia
Resolution of Comments & discussion of professional editing process
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
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4. Miscellaneous Announcements
January 2011
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group.
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5. January 2011
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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6. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
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7. Patent Related Links
January 2011
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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8. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
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9. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2011
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

10. Automated Attendance Recording
January 2011
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to
(Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

11. Presentation queue Dan Harkins presented 11-11/57r0, security
January 2011
Presentation queue
Dan Harkins presented 11-11/57r0, security
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12. Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Secretary selection
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Monday, 17 January :30-15:30
Secretary selection
Call Meeting to Order
Miscellaneous Announcements
Automated attendance reminder
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Meeting Agenda
Approval of Minutes:
Dallas meeting minutes: 11-10/1323r0
Munich ad hoc meeting minutes: 11-11/0005r0
Teleconference minutes:
November 24: 11-10/1403r0:
December 9: 11-11/0004r0
January 12: 11-11/0086r0
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

13. Monday, 17 January 2011 13:30-15:30 Get on 1 page Presentations
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Monday, 17 January :30-15:30
Get on 1 page
Status update: First recirculation of Sponsor Ballot
Status update rebasing on REVmb 6.0
Tutorial
Ad hoc dates
Presentations
Dee Denteneer presented 11-11/107r0: TGs timelines discussion
Kazuyuki Sakoda presented 11-11/101r0, M-BS comments
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Monday 19:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

14. Monday, 17January 2011 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Monday, 17January :30-21:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Discussion: Sequencing the Amendments
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Tuesday 8:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

15. Tuesday, 18 January 2011 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Tuesday, 18 January :00-10:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Ivan Pustogarov (IITP RAS) GCR for mesh slides, 11-11/0065r3
Kazuyuki Sakoda presented 11-11/101r1, M-BS comments
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Tuesday 10:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

16. Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:30-12:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Tuesday, 18 January :30-12:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Dan Harkins: 11-11/0027r1, security comments
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Wednesday 16:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

17. Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Wednesday, 19 January :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Presentations
Jarkko Kneckt: 11-11/105r0 and 11-11/128r0
Dee Denteneer: r0: MCCAOP Advertisement motivation discussion
Guido Hiertz: 11-11/162r0 Resolutions to frame format related comments
Kazuyuki Sakoda: 11-11/101r2, M-BS comment resolution overview
Overview comment resolution
Tutorial planning
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Thursday 8:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

18. January 2011
Straw poll
Do you agree with the approach to resolve the Advertisements comments, as sketched in 11-11/172, by means of the advertisement overview element.
Yes: 6
No: 0
Abstain: 2
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19. Thursday, 20 January 2011 8:00-10:00 (TBD)
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Thursday, 20 January :00-10:00 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments
Recess until 10:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

20. Thursday, 20 January 2011 10:30-12:30 (TBD)
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Thursday, 20 January :30-12:30 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments
Recess until 16:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

21. Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Thursday, 20 January :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

22. January 2011
Security
Motion 40, Moved to accept the resolutions in document r0 “1st-recirt-security-comment-spreadsheet “ to the comments identified by means of a label “x” in column “Resolution Status” and to adopt the text changes in 11-11/57r1 “Resolution of Security Comments from 1st Sponsor Ballot Recirculation”, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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23. January 2011
MCCA
Motion 41, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/180r1, “MCCA comments text”, to resolve the CIDs, identified in document 11-11/179r1 by means of label “MCCA1801” in columnY, as indicated in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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24. January 2011
Frame format
Motion 42, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/162r1, “Resolutions to frame format related comments”, to resolve the comments in CID 1283, 1284, 1357, 1285, 1356 with resolutions as given in 11-11/163r0, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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25. January 2011
Power Management
Motion 43, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/128r1, “Text for s M-PM Comment Resolutions ”, to resolve the comments in document 11-11/105r1 with Issue Id “M-PM” with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A-
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26. Beaconing and synchronization
January 2011
Beaconing and synchronization
Motion 44, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/100r2, “M-BS comment resolution text”, to resolve the comments in document 11-11/99r2 with labels “Kaz ”, “Mon”, or “Tue”, with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A-
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27. January 2011
G-emergency
Motion 45, Moved to accept the resolutions to the CIDs in 11-11/187r0, “ES comment resolution”, and direct the Editor to incorporate the suggested resolutions into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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28. January 2011
MIB
Motion 46, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/182r0, “Resolutions to conflicts in the IEEE s MIB” and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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29. January 2011
Editorial
Motion 47, Moved to accept the proposed resolutions to the CIDs in document 11-10/0027r3 identified by column Y = "Ed " or column Y = "Ed " and direct the editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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30. January 2011
Link metric reporting
Motion 48, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/183r1, “Link Metric Reporting Clean-up” to resolve CIDs 1053, 1289, 1319, 1320 with resolution code and resolution notes a provided in the document, and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft.
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
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31. January 2011
RFI proxy-1
Motion 49, Moved to accept the text changes in 11-11/189r0, "RFI Proxy Comment Resolutions Text", to resolve the comments identified in document 11-11/188r0 with label "11-proxy" with resolutions as given in this spreadsheet and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A-
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32. January 2011
RFI proxy-2
Motion 50, Moved to accept the resolutions given in document 11-11/188r0 "RFI Proxy Comment Resolutions Spreadsheet" for comments identified by Issue ID "R-Proxy" and label "RFI-PXU" in column Y and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover:, Seconder: Y- , N- , A-
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33. Dee Denteneer; Philips
Congestion control
Michael Bahr: 11-11/166r0: performance results for extended congestion notification element
Motion 51, Moved to close CID 1314 with Resolution Code “Disagree” and Resolution Note “In document 11-11/116r0 “Performance Results for Extended Congestion Notification IE” it is shown that this added IE can help to improve the performance”
 Mover:, Seconder:
Y- , N- , A-
January 2011
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34. January 2011
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Thursday, 20 January :00-18:00
Process: ad hoc will be until
Can then do voting on Thursday 10 february
And recirculate starting E.g. Monday 14 february
Telcons: thursdays,
Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on thursdays from february 4 until March 31 at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes.
Mover:, Seconder:
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35. Dee Denteneer; Philips
Synchronization
Strawpoll:
Which option do you prefer for framework?
#1: “synchronization protocol” as defined currently
# 2: “synchronization mode”
# 3: “synchronization method”
Which option do you prefer for “Neighbor Offset Protocol”?
#1: “Neighbor Offset Protocol”, as defined currently
#2: “Neighbor Offset Synchronization”
#3: “Neighbor Offset”
January 2011
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36. Dee Denteneer; Philips
BT element extensions
Strawpoll:
Which option do you prefer?
Change the precision of the unit : 256usec  TU
Change the length of “Neighbor TBTT subfield” 2octets  3octets
Insert a new field to signal the precision of the unit: The precision is defined by the setting of the new field. (i.e., 256 usec or TU)
Anything else?
January 2011
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37. Dee Denteneer; Philips
Clock drift
What is the most preferable way to go?
Leave the clock drift to outside the scope.
Define the clock drift compensation to be a part of synchronization , as defined currently.
Define the clock drift compensation independently in power save, MCCA, and MBCA.
January 2011
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38. Dee Denteneer; Philips
Tutorial-brainstorm
Introduction
Interworking
MAC
RFI
Security
January 2011
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39. Dee Denteneer; Philips
January 2010
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Thursday, 20 January
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
December 2010
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

40. [Reference Information]
January 2011
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[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet:
11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments
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41. [Reference Information]
January 2011
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[Reference Information]
TGs Chairmen
Dee Denteneer,
Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), November 2009
Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009
Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009
TGs Technical Editors:
Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 …
Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02
Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0
W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

42. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
January 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0
November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0
November 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0
July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0
May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0
March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0
January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0
November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0
November 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0
November 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0
July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0
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