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July 2010 doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/0xxxr0 Proposed liaison presentation to SC6 in relation to liaisons between IEEE 802.11 WG and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC 9 May 2011.

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1 July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0xxxr0 Proposed liaison presentation to SC6 in relation to liaisons between IEEE WG and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC 9 May 2011 Authors: Andrew Myles, Cisco

2 How can cooperation between 802
How can cooperation between WG & SC6 be improved based on the PSDO between IEEE & ISO? PSDO provides basis for cooperation WG & SC6 both support cooperation How can cooperation be improved? The PSDO agreement provides for cooperation between SC6 & the IEEE The standard meets the standard of “global recognition and use” The WG continues to support an ongoing relationship with SC6 The relationship between WG & SC6 has been supported in a variety of ways How can the formal liaison process between the WG and SC6 be improved? Do SC6 NBs want to continue receiving Sponsor Ballot drafts from WG? Does SC6 believe it needs to ratify IEEE standards?

3 The PSDO agreement provides for cooperation between ISO/IEC & the IEEE
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0xxxr0 The PSDO agreement provides for cooperation between ISO/IEC & the IEEE The PSDO provides mechanisms for cooperation between ISO/IEC and IEEE in a variety of fields PSDO is documented in SC6 document list as N (Feb 2008) It explicitly notes cooperation with ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Note: a new version has just been signed - JTC1 N10589 The PSDO states the agreement is consistent with ISO Council policy of inclusiveness and encourages cooperation between ISO and other standardizing bodies where such cooperation would serve to ensure effective and efficient use of resources available for standardization activities The PSDO also recognises the IEEE as an international SDO IEEE develops many standards that achieve global recognition and use Andrew Myles, Cisco

4 The 802.11 standard meets the standard of “global recognition and use”
The WG has defined the standard over a period of 21 years It now includes many amendments; a, b, d, e, g, h, i, j, k, n, p, r, u, v, w, z Amendments in development include s, aa, ac, ad, ae, af, ah, ai Revisions were issued in 1997, 1999, 2003, 2007 The standard is internationally recognised The standard is frequently specified by governments & commercial enterprises ISO/IEC JTC1 has ratified the base standard and various amendments 802.11i was the last amendment ratified by JTC1 (in 2006) The standard is widely used Almost one billion new devices per annum support the standard Most of these devices are certified for interoperability by the Wi-Fi Alliance

5 The 802.11 WG continues to support an ongoing relationship with SC6
The WG appreciates its ongoing relationship with SC6 for matters of mutual interest Mainly WANs, MANs, LANs, PANs; both wireless and wired A healthy on going relationship between WG and SC6 provides: Mechanisms for SC6 NBs to provide input into the development of the internationally recognised IEEE standard Processes for SC6 and IEEE to provide expert comment on the work of the other organisation, particularly to avoid duplication of efforts by their respective committees (source: PSDO) Options for mutual recognition of the standards developed by each committee

6 The relationship between 802
The relationship between WG & SC6 has been supported in a variety of ways Historically the main mechanism for interaction between the two SDOs was submission of standards for ratification by JTC1 Traditionally they were submitted through the UK NB Since the PSDO was agreed interactions between the two SDOs have used a variety of collaboration mechanisms Appointment of liaison officers ISO has provided access to SC6 documents to WG liaison officers WG documents are mostly available to general public anyway Transmission of formal liaison documents Most formal liaisons have been authored by WG Some SC6 NB authored documents have been used as proxy liaisons Liaising of draft standards/amendments Since 2010, most drafts at Sponsor Ballot level have been liaised to SC6 Attendance at meetings IEEE 802 representatives have attended SC6 neetings Individuals from NBs have attended IEEE WG meetings as individuals

7 How can the formal liaison process between the 802
How can the formal liaison process between the WG and SC6 be improved? Over the last two years the IEEE WG has liaised many documents to SC6 Including N14611, N14551, N14494, N14492, N14316, N14152, N14142, N13939, N13938, N13919 Only one document or response has been formally sent by SC6 to IEEEE WG in that time N14194 is only formal response from SC6 (Jan 10, thanking IEEE 802) A number of responses have been received from SC6 NBs but it is difficult to know whether they represent an SC6 position This situation is partially caused by different time scales of the two organisations IEEE WG meet every 2 months, whereas SC6 meets every 9 months Are there any possible process improvements that will allow the WG to determine the SC6 position in a timely manner?

8 Does SC6 want to continue receiving Sponsor Ballot drafts from the 802
Does SC6 want to continue receiving Sponsor Ballot drafts from the WG? The IEEE WG has liaised most drafts at Sponsor Ballot level to SC6 since Jan 2010 See next page for details The goal of the liaisons is to provide SC6 NB early visibility of material that may be sent to SC6 for ratification The liaisons all included an invitation to provide comments As of May 2011, no technical comments have been received from any NBs on any draft liaised to SC6 N14251 contains a liaison from China on minor process issues The IEEE WG interprets the lack of technical comments from SC6 NBs as an indication of confidence in the IEEE standards development & maintenance processes  However, it is worth discussing whether SC6 wants to continue receiving the Sponsor Ballot drafts?

9 The 802.11 WG has liaised most Sponsor Ballot drafts to SC6 since early 2010
Task Group Liaised after LA Orlando Beijing SD Liaised after Hawaii Liaised after Dallas Sing. Status Jan 10 Mar 10 May 10 July 10 Sept 10 Nov 10 Jan 11 Mar 11 May 11 TGmb - D6.0 D8.0 TGs D10.0 TGu D11.0 D13.0 Ratified TGv D9.0 D15.0 TGz D7.0 D12.0 Ratifed

10 Does SC6 need to continue to ratify 802.11 standards?
In the past the WG has regularly sent the base standard and some amendments to JTC1 for ratification The fast track process was traditionally used with submissions by the UK NB The submissions halted after the controversy caused by i’s approval and WAPI’s rejection by JTC1 in 2006 The WG had intended to submit to JTC1 as a new base standard for ratification using the PSDO defined process is likely to include all ratified amendments and s However it is unclear that JTC1 ratification is actually needed The PSDO already recognises many IEEE standards as having global scope This was recently noted in N14611 in relation to IEEE 802.3 The SC6 NBs have implicitly indicated confidence in the IEEE WG processes by their lack of comment on Sponsor Ballot drafts Does SC6 believe it needs to ratify IEEE standards, given they are already have international status and acceptance?


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