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IEEE DASC/CAG Cooperation December, 2008
Victor Berman, IEEE DASC Chairman
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DASC/CAG Goals Through mutual cooperation, support and further each other’s goals and mission Specific areas: Improve standards development tools and methods Improve mechanisms for industry feedback Improve international collaboration and outreach Improve environment for Corporate Standards Promote growth of entity-based standards Promote critical mass in EDA-related technology sectors
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DASC-sponsored Entity Standards
Six active projects Three completed standards Most prolific sponsor of entity standards to date Future projects will be DASC-only sponsor, no need for joint sponsorship with CAG
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Standards Development Tools and Methods
Currently MyBallot does not support corporate standards Obvious first step is to get support asap Tools need improvement to integrate with common databases such as Mantis Need to enhance and promote web-based support Most groups must provide their own tools, either through freeware such as GNU or commercial tools which are expensive and non-standard - leads to problems integrating with IEEE tools Growth of XML-based standards not well supported by IEEE web services Complicated business model Expense not comparable to commercial hosts
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Industry Feedback Current mechanisms for industry feedback are not well-coordinated IEEE Societies and Councils hold workshops and conferences, but there is no clear path to standards groups for the results and discussions CEDA was conceived with the idea of improving communication and planning between societies and standards groups This has been slow to evolve DASC has begun to work with CEDA for coordination It is not clear if this is the right mechanism Need collaboration with CAG if we want to pursue this path Need discussion of best mechanism, both internal to IEEE and external, to other industry groups
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Improve Environment for Corporate Standards
Value proposition needs work While some groups immediately grasp value of corporate program, others find it hard to understand or support Fee structure too rigid and not tied to costs Large groups pay a lot Groups doing minor work may not get company support Companies active in many groups pay a lot Predicated on concept of quick completion This is not always the case, especially for follow on work For example, P1800 initial standard was quick; update has dragged on. This is a typical scenario but the cost structure discourages technical work from being done inside IEEE. Need more flexible program to accommodate multiple scenarios ideas need discussion and refinement but should include: Flat or maximum fee for active companies Flat or maximum fee for large working groups Additional services included that differentiate from individual based WGs.
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