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November 2006 Dallas Meeting Slides
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 November 2006 Dallas Meeting Slides Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Welcome to TGT Evaluation of 802.11 Wireless Performance
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Welcome to TGT Evaluation of Wireless Performance Charles R. Wright C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002, Reaffirmed May 2005 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG/TG/SG Meetings
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG/TG/SG Meetings Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 (Revised January 2006) C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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New Attendance Recording
November 2006 New Attendance Recording We will continue to use the provisional new attendance recording software ← note changed URL It’s still under development! It’s unlikely to fail, but if it does, we’ll probably go back to the paper method (very unlikely) NOTE: You must sign in with your contact information before claiming attendance. Further note: the number on your badge is different for this event than the past meetings. Be sure to use the number on your badge when you sign in with your contact information C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Be Aware… The conference center is accessible to the public
November 2006 Be Aware… The conference center is accessible to the public Do not leave your laptop or personal items unattended in meeting rooms You must be wearing your badge while attending C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Local Document Server There’s a local server that mirrors the documents on that’s updated every 15 minutes ftp://newton/11 (the actual path is sometimes changed so log into the root) Please use this server for downloads to conserve bandwidth on our link to the outside world For document submissions, use the web interface on as per usual One more comment: is to be used only for document submissions Assigning a DCN Uploading documents for dissemination C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Meeting Objectives Approve any technical changes to the draft arising from previous teleconferences Current draft is D0.10; comments were made on D0.8 Hear proposals for resolving major problems identified during the Internal Review Step through comments in the comment spreadsheet and resolve them Goal is to make the TGT draft technically complete for submission to Letter Ballot after the January meeting C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Progress Since Melbourne
November 2006 Progress Since Melbourne Editor incorporated approved proposals into the draft to create D0.10 Four telecons held for resolving comments Resolved 15 comments Deferred 20 comments Remaining to be processed: 95 (includes deferred comments) C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Proposed Agenda for Dallas Meetings
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Proposed Agenda for Dallas Meetings Chair comments Appoint secretary Approve minutes 11-06/1541r0 – Melbourne Call for presentations 11-06/1703r0 “Continuing need for TRP and TIS methodologies in ”, M. Foegelle (45 min) 11-06/799r2, “Open OTAR” P. Visuri (companion: 11-06/1320r0) (30 min) 11-06/1756r1, “Internal comment resolution for COAT”, D. Victor (15 min) 11-06/1768r0, “Resolution of CID # 155”, S. Tolpin (30 min) 11-06/1770r0, “Proposal for resolution of comments”, N. Sharma (45 min) 11-06/xxxxr0, “MIMO testing in a conducted environment”, C. Wright (draft text: 11-06/xxxxr0) (60 min) Approval of agenda Editor’s report Approval of comments resolved on teleconferences (11-06/872r19) Presentations in Item 5 as they are ready Additional comment resolution (starting from 11-06/872r19) Process discussions Review of published T timeline (see Fixed time: 2:15 PM Thursday – motion to approve all comments resolved during this session New Business Future telecons Ad hoc meeting? C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Meeting Schedule for week
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Meeting Schedule for week Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday 8:00 Opening, confirm secretary, call for presentations, start presentations TGT 9:30 TGT Ad Hoc 11:00 TGT 12:30 Lunch 1:30 TGT TGT TGT Closing business 3:30 4:00 6:00 Dinner 7:30 9:30 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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TGT Standards Process Milestones
November 2006 TGT Standards Process Milestones Task Group considered the current timeline for TGT Mindful that there are many outstanding work items to complete before we can forward the draft for Letter Ballot, the TG decided to move the expected date of Letter Ballot to after the January, meeting 2005 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec We are here 1st LB 1st Recirc 2006 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2nd Recirc 1st SB 2007 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec SB Recirc WG/SEC approval REVCOM approval 2008 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Motion to accept comments resolved during teleconferences
Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Motion to accept comments resolved during teleconferences Move to accept resolutions from comment IDs: 290, 174, 81, 287, 272, 85, 293, 88, 90, 91, 294, 92, 93, 95, 98 Moved/Second: D.Victor/S.Tolpin Y/N/A: 9/0/1 Motion (technical) passes C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Doc.: IEEE /1719r0 November 2006 November 2006 Motion to accept comments resolved during TGT ad hoc (11/13/06, 9:30-11:00) Move to accept resolutions from comment IDs in 11-06/872r19: 111, 295, 115, 113 Moved/Second:D.Ward/M.Foegelle Y/N/A: 7/0/4 Motion (technical) passes C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc. C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Motion 3 Move to modify the P draft 0.10 in accordance with the instructions of document 11-06/799r2 slides numbered 4 through 6 Move/Second: P.Visuri/L.Green Y/N/A: 9/0/1 Motion (technical) passes C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Motion 4 Move to incorporate the contents of 11-06/1756r1 into the P draft Move/Second: D.Victor/L.Green Y/N/A: 9/0/3 Motion (technical) passes C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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“Deferred” Comments (1/2)
November 2006 “Deferred” Comments (1/2) Clause 4 268, 269, 147, 148, 280 All are similar and awaiting a submission from F. Pirzada Clause 5 161 Possible resolution is to eliminate the “test template” format from the test environments sections Clause 5.2 141, 229, 11, 12, 16, 21, 22, 24, 27, 28, 31 A variety of comments, no one common theme CID # 24: M. Foegelle Clause 5.3 270, 36, 236, 284, 40, 142, 165, 49 CID # 270, 49: C. Wright CID # 36: C. Wright CID # 284: T. Alexander CID # 40: may now be resolved CID # 142: C. Warren – clarify suggested remedy or withdraw/decline Clause 5.4, 5.5, 5.6, 6.5, 6.6 252, 253, 254, 248, 57, 58 – awaiting proposal from P. Visuri CID # 239: CID # 66: D. Ward This slide is incomplete and in the process of being updated C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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“Deferred” Coments (2/2)
November 2006 “Deferred” Coments (2/2) Clause 5.7 240 – Awaiting a submission (M. Foegelle, P. Visuri) 74, 75, 76 – poorly worded comments were going to be traced to their referring clause Clause 6.18 General 303 Waits for clause 4 reorganization This slide is incomplete and in the process of being updated C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Straw Poll Straw poll question here Yes: No: November 2006
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November 2006 New Business Possible telecon schedule following our current bi-weekly schedule (see green below) Discussion of work to be done on teleconferences COMMENT RESOLUTION! C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Backup Information C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 A Brief TGT History Study Group formed – 1st meeting January 2004 (Vancouver) PAR approved August 2004 Task Group formed – 1st meeting September 2004 (Berlin) Guidelines for proposals agreed – March 2005 (Atlanta) First accepted proposal – May 2005 (Cairns) Many accepted proposals have followed Started Issues List – September 2005 (Garden Grove) Internal Review conducted June-July 2006 Comment resolution and preparation for Letter Ballot Current intent is LB after January 2007 meeting C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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TGT Approved Document List
November 2006 TGT Approved Document List 11-04/1553r2, “Guidelines for TGT Formal Metric and Methodology Proposals” 11-05/912r3, “TGT Process Document” 11-06/872r9, “Compiled Comments from Internal Review” (latest version of comment resolution spreadsheet) C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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Teleconference Info Date: Thursdays
November 2006 Teleconference Info Date: Thursdays Time: 12 Noon Eastern time (no matter what the daylight savings time status) Duration: 1 hour Phone # International: Passcode: Next: TBD C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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November 2006 Reflector reflectors: Requires membership to send to it Getting on the reflectors Instructions are contained in every reflector posting for customizing your reflector experience (including unsubscribing) rules require all TG communication to be through reflector C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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References for 802.11 Newcomers (1 of 2)
November 2006 References for Newcomers (1 of 2) Web site: Document server: Sign up for an account No need to be an member to get an account Once logged in, “join” : Click on “ WLAN WG” on left In center window, choose to become a new member Click again on “ WLAN WG” An additional subitem called “Documents” will be revealed – click on it You’ve reached the document server! C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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References for 802.11 Newcomers (2 of 2)
November 2006 References for Newcomers (2 of 2) Document numbering scheme WG-YY-NNNN-RR-gggg-English-document-title.ext WG = 802 working group number, e.g. “11” as in YY = two digits of year NNNN = document number RR = document revision number gggg = group to which the document pertains Example: t-jan-2006-waikoloa-meeting-slides.ppt C. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.
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