1. LAMAS Working Group 17-18 June 2015
Conclusions

2. Point 2.1 - IESS Looking at issue on adding sub-sampling sentence
Feasibility studies re-discussed at next LAMAS meeting with IESS final text
Keep informed on adding no. of variables in FR
Testing requirement for implementing act
DSS in September – final discussion, will be sent to LAMAS.

3. Point 2.2 - new content: variables & modules
Not final decision today on variables – ready at end of 2017, include any pilot results we have at the time, only partial results of AHM2017
Agreement on frequency changes
NEEDCARE testing and then review.
Self-employed proposal kept for now.
Feasibility studies discussion in December LAMAS on organisation.

4. Point 2.3 - Household subsampling in the LFS -1
LAMAS appreciates the effort
Looking at policy requirements
Agree with the proposals, amending regulation in future
Extensions 1 and 2 are dropped
Some information is needed
Size proposal after summer
Agreement on consistency and weighting

5. Point 2.3 - Household subsampling in the LFS -2
Come back after summer on option to continue discussion in sub-group
HH definition differs between surveys. SILC more strict than LFS, which is more strict than census.
Question on HH definition not yet discussed in context of IESS. No agreement whether this concept should be common across all.
Proxy should be discussed. More strict in SILC. Maybe open a general discussion in LFS-context.

6. Point 2.4 - Measurement of employment and unemployment
3 months criterion is based on TF work. We should keep derogations out. If we want input harmonisation, we can't deviate from the operational definition. They should not be included.
Can ask for derogations later – it will be in the negotiations of the implementing act. We should try to achieve comparability on this important measure.

7. Point Flows – TF work
LAMAS congratulates TF on fast and pragmatic approach and endorses proposal and recommendations of TF.
Policy requirement is strong. Increased burden, but we can't escape to get this info into the LFS. It will be included only from IESS, think about situation in Not an option to drop. Commissioner has "mobility" in title… Complements migration statistics. Division in LAMAS: support vs concerns on burden.

8. Point 2.5 - Flows – COUNTRPR
LAMAS concludes there is burden but also high policy relevance. No need for final decision – only for Good to keep it on list for now, but in-between it should be tested before. We will also get results of AHM2014 in time. AT idea of mock-up tables is a good idea. With additional info we can then take final final decision.

9. Point 2.5 - Flows – Press release
Concluding on the press release: We need to have big discussion internally, checking for quality sample size and so on and negotiate with PO. Producing revised version afterwards. Will be different. We will circulate to LAMAS you can then comment in writing on this version – we will take them into account if possible, even if we decide in the end… Difficult when missing three countries. In July we will circulate to you.

10. Point 2.6 - Future system of AHM -1
Conclusion we have agreed on steps
For transition we will launch a consultation: Proposals for tested variables from NSI's. Must drop if including further. Need to check with EMPL.
For young people we review filters in Eurostat. Fully in June 2017 LAMAS.

11. Point 2.6 - Future system of AHM -2
For 2018 module. Please test/pilot so we get extensive results. This will be basis for inclusion in LFS.
On MQ agreement on limited deviations for good reasons.

12. Point 2.7 – Monthly LFS -1
LAMAS thanks the TF for the work which has been done and is very interesting.
The final report can however not be endorsed at the current point in time. Listen to comments and come back at next meeting
Issues IESS and quality framework should be separated.
Framework will not be published as it looks now

13. Point 2.7 – Monthly LFS -2
Something should be in IESS. Annex VI has a requirement on something on monthly data. We need something to ensure that we get some data. We will review the annex VI of the FR in the view of the report. The quality framework stays outside legal text. Need to agree on annex VI during summer. Written consultation on annex VI by end of August.
Come back on report of TF on way forward in December meeting.

14. Point 2.8 – Standardisation
FTPT:
Not LFS, contractual hours discussed in TF
Impossible in other surveys
Will make written vote on FTPT
Agreement on P1
P2 only concern on ISCO

15. Point 2.9 – income variable
Need to improve INCDECIL quality
Agree to provide real values
Collect either gross or net
Extended deadline 21 months
One target for transmission
Check with users for next meeting
More precise on dissemination

16. Point 2.10 – GALI + SPH
Eurostat sends out background documents and studies
LAMAS is slightly in favour
To be decided at DSS

17. Point 3.1 – 2017 AHM
2017AHM variables are mainly kept given time constraints
SE REAS current situation, PREFSTAPRO for main job
Explanatory notes detailed – will be sent
Future LFS variables we have more time to review, written comments by end-July

18. Point 3.2 – 2018 AHM Hear concerns to simplify
Have to keep three submodules, maybe one can be dropped for future.
Try to get input from users
LAMAS asks TF to make proposal for regular module in future LFS, once submodule number is clarified

19. Point 4.1 – Main indicators
Discuss population definition in IESS?
Longstanding user request
Publication by the end of the year
No grants
Exact list of series provided
Consistency critical: Bilateral videoconferences with concerned countries (mainly SA)
Documentation is very important

20. Point 4.4 – MIP Need to keep burden down, but MS must validate
MUR chosen as input due to break corrections
Eurostat will further check on decision – should be re-investigated.
Is it sufficient to have only LFS in the template (hybrid methods)?

21. Point 5 – AOB – OECD data delivery
Raised by PL