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TGac September 2011 Agenda Date: 2011-09-18 Authors: September 2011
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 TGac September 2011 Agenda Date: Authors: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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IEEE 802.11ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group
September 2011 IEEE ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group Okinawa, Japan September 18-23, 2011 Chair: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Vice Chair: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) Vice Chair: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey (Apple) Secretary: David Yang (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September 2011 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
September 2011 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
September 2011 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 5 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Policy Following 5 slides September 2011 September 2011
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Instructions for the WG Chair
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda Items for the Week
September 2011 Agenda Items for the Week Editor Report and Review from July and September ad hoc meetings Approve minutes from July meeting. Approve telecon minutes, (August 18, 25 and September 1, 8). Approve minutes from September Ad Hoc meeting, Seoul, Korea Approve resolutions to comments resolved during the Telecons and the ad hoc meeting. LB 178 Comment Resolution Ad Hoc group meetings and straw polls (pre-motions) Technical Submissions Schedule telecons and ad hoc meeting. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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General Flow of the Meeting
September 2011 doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 General Flow of the Meeting Monday September 19th, 10:30 – 12:30 IEEE IPR and Patent Policy Approve of July meeting minutes, September Ad Hoc meeting, and telecons minutes. Editor Report Comment Resolution Monday September 19th, 13:30 – 15:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations, straw polls, and pre-motions Tuesday September 20th 08:00 – 10:00 Tuesday September 20th 10:30 – 12:30 Tuesday September 20th 13:30 – 15:30 Wednesday September 21st, 08:00 – 10:00 TG Meeting TG Motions Thursday September 22nd, 10:30 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations and Straw Polls Thursday September 22nd, 16:00 – 18:00 Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls Presentations Goals for November 2011 Ad Hoc meeting and Conference calls Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Monday, September 19th, 10:30 – 12:30 (Conference Room A1)
TG Meeting Patent policy, etc. Call for submissions Set agenda and Ad Hoc groups schedule. Editor Report. TG motions Approve minutes from July meeting, September Ad Hoc meeting, and Telecons (August 18, 25 and September 1, 8) TG documents and presentations Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submissions September 2011 PHY MAC GEN
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Submissions PHY 11/1199r0, “D1.0 Comment Resolution – Various PHY CIDs”, Reza Hedyat 11/1216r0, “D1_comment_resolution_brianh_part6”, Brian Hart 11/1235, “D1.0 Comment Resolution - Misc. PHY Comments Part 2 , Youhan Kim 11/1042, D1 comment resolution brianh part3, Brian Hart 11/1260, Proposed resolution for CID 2934 on L-SIG parity bit, Peter Loc 11/1282, “D1.0-comment-resolution-clause ”, Minho Cheong 11/1284, “D1.0-comment-resolution-equation-errors”, Minho Cheong 11/1285, “D1.0-comment-resolution-clause ”, Minho Cheong MAC 11/1198r0, “D1.0 Comment Resolution – TXOP for Group-Addressed Frames”, Reza Hedyat 11/1127, “LB proposed resolutions”, Adrian Stephens 11/1279, “Comment_resolution_ ”, Chao-Chun Wang (Mediatek) 11/1186r1, Comment resolutions on BSS BW operation, simone 11/1258, Proposed resolutions for comments related to max lengths, Peter Loc 11/1281, “comments resolution for CID2954” Lv Kaiying (ZTE Corporation) GEN 11/1256r0, “lb178 gcmp proposed resolutions”, Adrian Stephens (Intel Corporation) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submission (Cntd) Coexistence MU-MIMO September 2011
11/1234, “D1.0 Comment Resolution - MU Comments, Youhan Kim 11/1216, D1_comment_resolution_brianh_part6, Brian Hart 11/1283, “Comemnt resolution - CID 3250” Simone Merlin 11/xxxx, wei 11/1259, «TGac-comment-resolution-beamforming-report-clarification, Joonsuk Kim 11/1215, «D1-comment-resolution-Group-ID-management-frame, Jonghyun Park (LG Electronics) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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TGac Schedule in a Glance
September 2011 TGac Schedule in a Glance Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday AM1 PHY MU-MIMO TGac AM2 COEX MAC PM1 PM2 PM3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Summary from Seoul Ad Hoc Meeting
September 2011 Summary from Seoul Ad Hoc Meeting 24 Submissions were discussed over a couple of days, September 14 and 15. Resolutions to 176 CIDs were considered and agreed to. Agenda, including all straw polls, is available at: Meeting minutes: Thanks for LG for hosting the meeting. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Editor Report (11/1184r1) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey
September 2011 Editor Report (11/1184r1) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September 2011 Approval of Minutes (July 2011 Meeting, September Ad Hoc Meeting, and Telecons) Move to approve July 2011 TGac meeting minutes available at: TGac Telecons minutes available at: TGac September Ad Hoc meeting, Seoul, Korea. Minutes are available at: Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September 2011 Motion #1: Telecon Move to accept changes to Clause as in doc r1. Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Motion accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Monday, September 19th, 13:30 – 15:30
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Agenda for Monday, September 19th, 13:30 – 15:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Rehearsal Room (PHY) Ad Hoc 2: Conference Room B2 (MU-MIMO) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September 2011 Pre-Motion #1 Do you agree with resolutions to CIDs 2010, 3588, 3587, 2588, 3762, 3592, 3591, 2686, 3594, 2590, 3764, 2099, 3266, 3593, 3192, 3766, 3718, 2592, 3769, 3647, 2593, and 3626 as in doc r2? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 08:00 – 10:00
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 08:00 – 10:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Rehearsal Room (PHY) Ad Hoc 2: Conference Room B2 (MU-MIMO) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 10:30 – 12:30
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 10:30 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Rehearsal (MAC) Ad Hoc 2: Conference Room B2 (COEX) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 13:30 – 15:30
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, September 20th, 13:30 – 15:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Rehearsal (PHY) Ad Hoc 2: Conference Room B2 (MAC) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Wednesday, July 21st, 08:00 – 10:00 (Conference Room A1)
September 2011 Agenda for Wednesday, July 21st, 08:00 – 10:00 (Conference Room A1) TG Meeting 11/1256r0, “lb178 gcmp proposed resolutions”, Adrian Stephens (Intel Corporation) TG Motions Comment Resolution and Presentations Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Straw Poll (Pre-motion)
September 2011 Straw Poll (Pre-motion) Do you agree to resolutions of CIDs 2329, 2330, 2333, 2334, 2327, 2328, 2253, 2252, 2113, 3538, 2331, 2332, 2812, 3302, 2298, 2251, 2633, 2634, 3120, 2250, 2635, 3121, 2636, 3048, 3049, 2111, 3117, 2112, 3118, 2101, 2102, 2012, 2594, 2595, 2596, 2597, 2598, and 3119 as in 11/1256r1? No objection noted Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #4: COEX
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #4: COEX Move to approve comment resolutions as in: COEX: 11/ ac-lb178-coex-comments-tgac-d1-0: COEX for Motion Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #5: MAC
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #5: MAC Move to approve comment resolutions as in: MAC: 11/ ac-tgas-ld1-0-mac-comments-for-motion: MAC TELECON MAC TELECON MAC TELECON MAC ADHOC, except those presented in submissions 11/1200r1 and in 11/1201r1 MAC ADHOC MAC AM2 MAC AM2 MAC PM1 Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #6: MAC
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #6: MAC Move to approve comment resolutions as in: MAC: 11/ ac-tgas-ld1-0-mac-comments-for-motion: MAC ADHOC, CIDs 2675, 3786, 2134, 2135, 2136, 2137, 2676, 2852, 3342, 2162, 2033, 2677, 2851, 3341, 2161, 3259, 3260, 3804, 3805 in 11/1200r1 CIDs 2846, 3336, 2853, 3343, 2845, and 3335 in 11/1201r1 Move: joonsuk Second: Robert Yes: 38 No:3 Abstain: 3 Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #7: MU-MIMO
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #7: MU-MIMO Move to approve comment resolutions as in: MU: ac-D1-MU-comment-spreadsheet: MU-Seoul , except CIDs 2667 and 3673 and CIDs 3307 and 2897 MU PM1 MU AM1 Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Yes: 37 No: 0 Abstain: 4 Motion passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #8: MU-MIMO
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #8: MU-MIMO Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 2667 and 3673 as in 1206r2. Move: Joonsuk Second Robert Yes: 43 No: 0 Abstain:3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #9: MU-MIMO
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #9: MU-MIMO Move to approve resolutions to CIDs 3307 and 2897 as in 1191r2. Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Yes: 40 No: 0 Abstain: 3 Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #10: GEN
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #10: GEN Move to approve comment resolutions as in: GEN: 11/ ac-lb178-ld1-0-gen-bucket-comments: GEN AD-HOC Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Yes: 30 No: 0 Abstain 4 Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #11: PHY
September 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #11: PHY Move to approve comment resolutions as in: PHY: 11/1257r1TGac D1.0 PHY comments for Motion in Okinawa: PHY Comments for Motion 0921, except CID 2215 Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Yes: 36 No: 0 Abstain: 7 Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution #12: PHY
September 2011 Comment Resolution #12: PHY Move to approve resolution to CID 2072 as in 1190r0. Move: Joonsuk Second: Robert Motion accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, September 22nd, 10:30 – 12:30
Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Conference Room A1 (PHY) Ad Hoc 2: Rehearsal (MAC) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, September 22nd, 16:00 – 18:00 (Rehearsal Room)
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Agenda for Thursday, September 22nd, 16:00 – 18:00 (Rehearsal Room) TG Meeting Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls TG Motions Presentations Goals for November 2011 Ad Hoc Meeting(s) Conference calls Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September 2011 Ad Hoc Meeting Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Conference call times Previously Approved September 2011
doc.: IEEE /1165r0 September 2011 Conference call times Not to overlap with TGad Oct 27, Nov 17, Dec 8 10:00 – 12:00 ET Oct 20, Nov 3, Dec 1, Dec 15 20:00-22:00 ET Previously Approved September 29, October 13 20:00 – 22:00 ET October 6 10:00 – 12:00 10:00-12:00 ET Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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