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TGn Opening Report - Jan 19 ‘09
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Opening Report - Jan 19 ‘09 Date: 2009-January-19 Authors: Name Company Address Phone Bruce Kraemer Marvell +1 - 321 4 27 4098 marvell .com 5488 Marvell Lane, Santa Clara, CA, 95054 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Welcome to Los Angeles January Hyatt Hotel Meetings Room = Santa Monica Olympic II – Wed pm1 parallel session on Wed pm1 only Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Agenda Administrative Items IEEE Policies for Patents and Meetings
January 2009 Agenda Administrative Items IEEE Policies for Patents and Meetings TGn minutes History, Organization, Documents Work Plan Details Tech editor report Ad hoc Reports Other Business Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 4 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
January 2009 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 5 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
January 2009 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 6 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Policies January 2009 Policies and Procedures:
doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Policies Policies and Procedures: IEEE Patent Policy - Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. Affiliation FAQ - Anti-Trust FAQ - Ethics - IEEE Policies and Procedures - IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 - March 08 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 – March 08 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
January 2009 If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 – March 08 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 – March 08 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Minutes January 2009 Slide 12 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Minutes of November ’08 11-08-1251r2
January 2009 TGn Minutes of November ’ r2 Executive Summary (also see Chairs’ meeting doc and closing report doc ): Draft 7.0 passed recirculation ballot LB136 with 276 approve, 17 not approve, 21 abstain. All of the 48 comments from LB136 were resolved with no approved changes to the draft. The task group requested that the working group approve a request for letter ballot and approved a package for the executive council to conditionally approve a sponsor ballot with the sponsor ballot pool approved during July/August 2008. There were changes to the timeline anticipating publication in March 2010. Slide 13 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 Approve Minutes Motion to approve November ‘08 (Dallas) TGn minutes as contained in r2 Move: Second: Slide 14 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Quick Review of Events prior to this meeting
January 2009 TGn Quick Review of Events prior to this meeting Slide 15 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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One Page History of TGn January 2009
July 2008 doc.: IEEE /0748r5 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 One Page History of TGn HTSG formed – First meeting (Sep-11-’02 Monterey) TGn formed – First meeting (Sep-15-’03 Singapore) Began call for proposals (May 17 ’04 Garden Grove) 32 First round presentations (Sep 13 ’04 Berlin) Down selected to one proposal (Mar ’05 Atlanta) –first confirm vote failed. Confirmation vote #2 failed - reset to 3 proposals -left the May ‘05 meeting with a serious deadlock. (Cairns) 3 proposal groups agreed to a joint proposal activity (Jul ’05 San Francisco) JP proposal accepted by vote of 184/0/4, editor instructed to create draft (Jan ’06 Waikoloa) Baseline specification converted into Draft 1.0 (335p). Letter ballot issued (LB84) March 20, ’06 (Denver) and closed on April 29, ‘06 (failed) Draft 1.0 Comment resolution begins (May ’06 Jacksonville) Approved 6711 editorial and 1041 technical resolutions; Created Draft (Jul ’06 San Diego) Approved 568 technical resolutions (Sep ’06 Melbourne); Created Draft 1.06 (388p) Approved 703 technical resolutions (Nov ’06 Dallas); Created Draft 1.09 (444p) Approved 496 technical resolutions (Jan ’07 London); created D (500p); went to WG letter ballot Feb 7, ’07 with D 2.0; closed March 9, ’07 LB97 on TGn D2.0 passed with 83.4% approval. (Mar ’07 Orlando) Began comment resolution on with target of Draft 3.0 completion and release to ballot in Sep ’07. Approved 1470 editorial resolutions and approved TGn draft Also approved 450 technical comment resolutions. (May 07 Montreal) Cumulative insertion of resolutions contained in TGn draft (494p) Approved 750 technical resolutions and approved TGn draft (July 07 San Francisco) Cumulative insertion of resolutions now contained in TGn draft (498p) Approved 507 technical resolutions and approved recirculation ballot for TGn draft 3.0 (544p). (Sep 07 Waikoloa) Recirculation passed. Approved 282 editorial resolutions and approved TGn draft Approved 97 technical resolutions. (Nov 07 Atlanta) Cumulative insertion of resolutions now contained in TGn draft (558p) Approved 313 technical comment resolutions (Jan ‘08 Taipei). Cumulative approved comments now in D3.03. Additional ad hoc comment resolutions contained in speculative edits D3.04, D3.05, D3.06. Approved 190 technical comment resolutions (Mar ’08 Orlando). Approved recirculation ballot for TGn draft 4.0 (547p). Approved 349 comment resolutions (May ’08 Jacksonville). Approved recirculation ballot (LB129) for TGn draft 5.0 (547p). Ballot closed June 12 with 1112 comments. Approved 1112 comment resolutions (July ’08 Denver). Approved recirculation ballot (LB134) for TGn draft 6.0 (557p). Ballot closed August 12 with 195 comments. Approved 195 comment resolutions (Sep ’08 Waikoloa). Approved recirculation ballot (LB136) for TGn draft 7.0 (557p). Ballot closed Sep 30 with 48 comments. Approved 48 comment resolutions resulting from LB136 (Nov ’08 Dallas). Approved recirculation ballot (LB138). Granted conditional approval to move to Sponsor ballot. Zero no votes received. Moved ahead with Sponsor ballot. Sponsor Ballot closed Jan 10 ’09. Slide 16 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Page 16 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)
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TGn Ad Hoc Organization
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Ad Hoc Organization Ad Hoc Topic Ad hoc leader In Los Angeles? PHY Vinko Erceg Yes MAC Matt Fischer Coexistence Eldad Perahia General Joe Levy Beamforming & Adaptation John Ketchum Joonsuk Kim No TGn Bruce Kraemer Editorial Adrian Stephens CA Doc Sheung Li Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Primary November Meeting Documents
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Primary November Meeting Documents LB Report r1 LB136 Comment Composite r2 Meeting Report r0 Editors Report r0 Closing Report r0 Meeting Minutes r0 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn - Primary January Meeting Documents
doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn - Primary January Meeting Documents LB138 comments r1 Conditional Approval Report r0 SB comments r0 SB comments attachments r0 TGn January Meeting Report r0 TGn Editors Report r0 TGn Closing Report r0 TGn Meeting Minutes r0 TGn Draft 7.02 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 TGn – LB 138 This ballot was a 15 day Technical, Sixth Recirculation Letter Ballot for IEEE n - Draft 7.00. asking the question “Should TGn Draft 7.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Ballot Opening Date: Monday November 17, 2008 - 23:59 ET Ballot Closing Date: Tuesday December 02, 2009 - 23:59 ET RESPONSE RATE: 325 eligible people are in this ballot group. 281 affirmative votes 14 negative votes 20 abstention votes === 315 votes received = 96.9% valid returns = 6.3 % valid abstentions This ballot has met the 50% returned ballot ratio requirement. The ballot abstention rate was less than 30%. APPROVAL RATE: 281 affirmative votes = 95.25 % affirmative 14 total negative votes = % negative The 75% affirmation requirement has been met. Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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LB138 – Comments (9 Total) Comment Composite 11-08-1445 r1
January 2009 LB138 – Comments (9 Total) Comment Composite r1 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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LB138 Comments & Proposed Solutions
January 2009 LB138 Comments & Proposed Solutions Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Completion of LB138 Comment Resolution
January 2009 Completion of LB138 Comment Resolution Proposed Response Reject: This topic and possible changes to the draft have been previously discussed. The comment as submitted does not require immediate changes to the draft text prior to proceeding to sponsor ballot. This particular ballot was a WG recirculation ballot on an unchanged draft. It is recommended that you resubmit your comment for consideration during the Sponsor ballot phase when the whole document is open for change suggestions. Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Sponsor Ballot 1st Sponsor ballot ran from Dec 11 to Jan 10
January 2009 TGn Sponsor Ballot 1st Sponsor ballot ran from Dec 11 to Jan 10 277 eligible to vote 224 votes received, meeting the 75% return rate Passed : 77.8% affirmative 241 comments submitted Expect recirculation sometime after the Jan ‘09 meeting Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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1st Sponsor Ballot – Comments (241 Total)
January 2009 1st Sponsor Ballot – Comments (241 Total) Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Resolution Spreadsheet
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 SB0 Ad hoc Documents Ad hoc CID count Resolution Spreadsheet Report (ppt) Resolutions (doc) Coex 82 r0 Gen 18 r0 BEAM + PHY 17 MAC 35 r0 r0 r0 Editor 89 Composite 241 r0 Other Submissions: 119, 127, 128, 129 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January TGn Work Plan January 2009 Slide 27 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Agenda Plan and Topics Primary topic: Comment Resolution
January 2009 July 2008 doc.: IEEE /0748r5 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 Agenda Plan and Topics Primary topic: Comment Resolution General Order – TGn Full with sequence of topics agreed One ad hoc session (2 tracks) during Wed pm1 Option to convert to ad hoc when full business complete Monday – TGn summary, ad hoc status and comment resolution discussions Editor Motions Tuesday – Discussion & voting Wednesday – Discussion & voting Thursday - Voting on prepared comment resolutions Timeline review Plans Teleconferences Any other Business for the agenda? Slide 28 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Page 28 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)
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January WG11 Agenda am1 am2 pm1 pm2 eve January 2009 lunch dinner
Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday am1 am2 lunch pm1 pm2 dinner eve Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule - Initial
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule - Initial Jan 19 Jan 20 Jan 21 Jan 22 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday am 1 8:00-10:00 X Full TGn 10 14 am 2 10:30-12:30 6 lunch 12:30-13:30 pm 1 13:30-15:30 8 TGn ad hocs 12 pm 2 16:00-18:00 2 16 eve 19:30-21:30 4 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Time slot requests Time requests Editor – 0 COEX – 2 or 3 GEN - 1 or 2
January 2009 Time slot requests Time requests Editor – 0 COEX – 2 or 3 GEN - 1 or 2 MAC - 1 or 2 PHY - 2 Total Min Max 9 Slots available = 8 5 indicated as ad hoc 3 indicated as Full Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January Meeting Topics
Comment Resolution LB138 Sponsor Ballot 40 MHz Coexistence – Thursday am 1 PHY tutorial – Pat Kinney Bluetooth AFH tutorial – John Barr Correlation between and Bluetooth – Barr Test results for n and Goyal-U Wisc Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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January 2009 Approve Work Plan Motion to approve January ’09 TGn Work Plan as contained on slide (with any minuted amendments as contained in 1460r1). Move: Second: Slide 33 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Thursday topics Plans from January to March Time Line Teleconferences
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TGn Timeline – January 19, 2009 Event Name Accepted Dates Actual
doc.: IEEE /1460r3 November 2008 TGn Timeline – January 19, 2009 Event Name Accepted Dates Actual Previously Approved Currently Published PAR Approved Sep ‘03 Initial WG Letter Ballot Mar ‘06 Recirculation WG Letter Ballot Oct ‘07 Form Sponsor Ballot Pool Jul ‘08 Initial Sponsor Ballot Dec ‘08 Nov ‘08 Jan ‘09 Recirculation Sponsor Ballot May ‘09 Final WG Approval Jul ‘09 Nov ‘09 Final EC Approval RevCom/ Stds Board Approval Sep ‘09 Jan ‘10 Publication Mar ‘10 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Teleconference Plan
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Teleconference Plan Call time: 11:00 – 13:00 ET Call number: Wednesday Blocking events Ad hoc group Meeting chair Bridge # Passcode Jan 21 Interim Jan 28 2 Feb 04 Feb 11 Feb 18 Feb 25 Mar 04 Mar 11 Plenary Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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End of Chair's Opening Report
January 2009 End of Chair's Opening Report Slide 37 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Technical Editor Report 11-09-0038 r0
January 2009 Technical Editor Report r0 Slide 38 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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ad hoc Reports January 2009 Slide 39 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Any other business? January 2009 Slide 40 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Recess January 2009 Slide 41 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Tuesday am2 update January 2009 January 2009 July 2008
doc.: IEEE /0748r5 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Tuesday am2 update Slide 42 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Page 42 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)
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TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation Jan 19 Jan 20 Jan 21 Jan 22 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday am 1 8:00-10:00 X TGn PHY Full TGn COEX Presos am 2 10:30-12:30 COEX 1hr Gen lunch 12:30-13:30 pm 1 13:30-15:30 MAC TGn ad hocs PHY/BEAM pm 2 16:00-18:00 Opening Editor Ad hoc chairs 16 eve 19:30-21:30 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Resolution Spreadsheet
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 SB0 Ad hoc Documents Ad hoc CID count Resolution Spreadsheet Report (ppt) Resolutions (doc) Coex 82 r0 Gen 18 r0 BEAM + PHY 17 MAC 35 r0 r0 r0 Editor 89 Composite 241 r0 COEX Submissions: 064, 119, 129 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Recess January 2009 Slide 45 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Wednesday am1 update
January 2009 July 2008 doc.: IEEE /0748r5 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Wednesday am1 update Slide 46 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Page 46 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)
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TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation Jan 19 Jan 20 Jan 21 Jan 22 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday am 1 8:00-10:00 X TGn PHY Full TGn COEX Presos am 2 10:30-12:30 COEX 1hr Gen lunch 12:30-13:30 pm 1 13:30-15:30 MAC TGn ad hocs MAC - SM PHY/BEAM Olympic II pm 2 16:00-18:00 Opening Editor Ad hoc chairs 16 eve 19:30-21:30 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Resolution Spreadsheet
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 SB0 Ad hoc Documents Ad hoc CID count Resolution Spreadsheet Report (ppt) Resolutions (doc) Coex 82 r0 Gen 18 r0 BEAM + PHY 17 r0 MAC 35 r0 r0 r0 Editor 89 Composite 241 r0 COEX Submissions: 064, 119, 129 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Recess January 2009 Slide 49 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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TGn Thursday am1 update January 2009 January 2009 July 2008
doc.: IEEE /0748r5 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn Thursday am1 update Slide 50 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Page 50 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer (Marvell), Sheung Li (SiBEAM)
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TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation
January 2009 doc.: IEEE /1460r3 January 2009 TGn – Jan ‘09 Schedule – Topic allocation Jan 19 Jan 20 Jan 21 Jan 22 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday am 1 8:00-10:00 X TGn PHY Full TGn COEX Presos am 2 10:30-12:30 COEX 1hr Gen lunch 12:30-13:30 pm 1 13:30-15:30 MAC TGn ad hocs MAC - SM PHY/BEAM Olympic II pm 2 16:00-18:00 Opening Editor Ad hoc chairs 16 eve 19:30-21:30 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Thursday am1 Meeting Topics
January 2009 Thursday am1 Meeting Topics Technology Presentations r0 Bluetooth AFH & IEEE PHY tutorial – Pat Kinney Unresolved Comments Voting? Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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Recess January 2009 Slide 53 Bruce Kraemer, Marvell
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