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July 2009 VHTL6 (TGac) Meeting Agenda
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 July 2009 VHTL6 (TGac) Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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IEEE 802.11ac: Very High Throughput < 6 GHz Task Group
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 IEEE ac: Very High Throughput < 6 GHz Task Group San Francisco 12-17 July, 2009 Chair: Osama Aboul-Magd Vice Chairs: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) and Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) Technical Editor: TBD Secretary: TBD Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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General Flow of the TGac Meeting
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 General Flow of the TGac Meeting Tuesday PM1 Administrivia and Status Approve March minutes Approve conference calls minutes Submissions and presentations Tuesday PM2 Submissions and Presentation Wednesday PM1 Thursday AM1 Submissions and Presentations Thursday AM2 Thursday PM2 Submissions and TGac Process Discussion Teleconferences Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Tuesday, July 14 2009 13:30– 15:00, Grand Ballroom C
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Tuesday, July :30– 15:00, Grand Ballroom C Call meeting to Order Attendance Recording Reminder Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics Miscellaneous Announcements Agenda Modification and approval Approval of Minutes May 2009 Meeting Minutes, 11-09/0771r0 Teleconference Minutes May , 11-09/0772r1 June , r0 Selection of Secretary Call for Submissions Presentations Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Miscellaneous Announcements
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Automated Attendance Recording
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Motion to Approve Minutes
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Motion to Approve Minutes Move to approve the May meeting minutes in 11-09/0771r0 and May 28 and June 25 conference calls minutes in 11-09/0772r1 and 11-09/0773r0 Move: Osama Aboul-Magd Second: Menzo (qualcomm) Accepted with unanimous consent Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 TG Status July 2009 09-059r4 is the baseline document for the selection procedure. r2 is the baseline document for the usage models. 09-308r5 is the baseline document for the channel models addendum. Continue the work on functional requirements and evaluation. methodology ( r2). Initiated discussion on the Specification Framework document. Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Submissions July 2009 May 2009 doc.: IEEE 802.11-09/0723r0
09/0451r3, “TGac Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology”, Peter Loc (Ralink), Minho Cheong (ETRI) 09/0762r0 “TGaa OBSS Background”, Graham Smith (DSP Group) 09/779r0, “TGac Channel Model Revision (for r6), Greg Breit (Qualcomm) 09/784r0, “Coherence Time”, Eldad Perahia (Intel) 09/785r0, “PA Model Sample Rate”, Eldad Perahia (Intel) 09/789r1, “Technology and Use Models”, Robert Stacey (Intel) 09/816r0, “Enterprise Simulation Scenario”, Brian Hart (Cisco Systems) 09/0822r0, “AoD and AoA Estimation for TGac”, Byung-Jae Kwak, Minho Cheong (ETRI) 09/0823r0, “Progress Report for Corridor Channel Model for Tgac” , Byung-Jae Kwak, Minho Cheong (ETRI). 09/0828r0, “Coherence Time Measurement in NTT Lab”, Wataru Yamada (NTT) 09/0833r0, “Two Levels of OBSS Control in 11ac”, Yuichi Morioka (Sony Corporation) 09/0836r0, “Spec Framework Decision Process”, Rolf de Vegt (Qualcomm), 09/0838r0, “Supporting Document for TGac Evaluation Methodology”, Minho Cheong (ETRI), Peter Loc (Ralink) 09/0839, “Consideration on Interference Management in OBSS”, Yasushi Takatori (NTT) 09/0841r0, “Proposed Changes Selection Criteria”, Vinko Erceg (Broadcom) 09/0847r0, “IEEE802.11ac Preamble with Legacy a/n Backward Compatibility”, Leonardo Lanante (Kyushu Institute of Technology) 09/0849r0, “Upstream Intensive Usage Models”, Rolf de Vegt (Qualcomm) 09/0852, “UL MU-MIMO for 11ac”, Richard Van Nee (Qualcomm) 09/0859, “Insights from CSMA with Multipacket Reception: Achieving >1 Gbps Aggregate Throughput” Douglas Chan (Self) Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Tuesday PM1 Presentations
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Tuesday PM1 Presentations 09/0822r0, “AoD and AoA Estimation for TGac”, Byung-Jae Kwak, Minho Cheong (ETRI). 09/0823r0, “Progress Report for Corridor Channel Model for TGac” , Byung-Jae Kwak, Minho Cheong (ETRI). 09/785r0, “PA Model Sample Rate”, Eldad Perahia (Intel) 09/784r0, “Coherence Time”, Eldad Perahia (Intel) 09/0836r0, “Spec Framework Decision Process”, Rolf de Vegt (Qualcomm), Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Tuesday, July 14 2009 16:00– 18:00, Grand Ballroom C
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Tuesday, July :00– 18:00, Grand Ballroom C Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Call for Submissions Presentations Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Tuesday PM2 Presentations
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Tuesday PM2 Presentations 09/0762, “TGaa OBSS Background”, Graham Smith (DSP Group)- 1 hour 09/0451r3, “TGac Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology”, Peter Loc (Ralink), Minho Cheong (ETRI) Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Wednesday, July 15 2009 13:30– 15:30 Call for Submissions
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Wednesday, July :30– 15:30 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Call for Submissions Presentations Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Wednesday Presentations
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Wednesday Presentations 09/0828r0, “Coherence Time Measurement in NTT Lab”, Wataru Yamada (NTT) 09/779r0, “TGac Channel Model Revision (for r6), Greg Breit (Qualcomm) and motion 09/0849r0, “Upstream Intensive Usage Models”, Rolf de Vegt (Qualcomm) 09/0789r1, “Technology and Use Models”, Robert Stacey (Intel) Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday AM1, July 16 2009 08:00 - 10:00, Grand Ballroom C
doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday AM1, July : :00, Grand Ballroom C Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Call for Submissions Presentations and motions Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday AM1 Presentations
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday AM1 Presentations 09/0847r0, “IEEE802.11ac Preamble with Legacy a/n Backward Compatibility”, Leonardo Lanante (Kyushu Institute of Technology) 09/0859, “Insights from CSMA with Multipacket Reception: Achieving >1 Gbps Aggregate Throughput” Douglas Chan (Self) 09/0852, “UL MU-MIMO for 11ac”, Richard Van Nee (Qualcomm) Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday AM2, July 16 2009 10:30 - 12:30, Grand Ballroom C
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday AM2, July : :30, Grand Ballroom C Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Call for Submissions Presentations and motions Next Steps Conference Calls Schedule Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday AM2 Presentations
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday AM2 Presentations 09/816r0, “Enterprise Simulation Scenario”, Brian Hart (Cisco Systems) 09/0833r0, “Two Levels of OBSS Control in 11ac”, Yuichi Morioka (Sony Corporation) 09/0839, “Consideration on Interference Management in OBSS”, Yasushi Takatori (NTT) Straw Polls 09/0841r0, “Proposed Changes Selection Criteria”, Vinko Erceg (Broadcom) Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Straw Polls OBSS investigations should be comparable, so the OBSS Note in 09/451 should propose studying OBSS via the Enterprise Simulation Scenario, with the original BSS copy/pasted to (20,40) and (-20,-40) Y34, N0, A30 There is sufficient evidence of the fluorescent light effect that it merits further study as a candidate for insertion into the 11ac channel model for enterprise environments. Y43, N0, A27 Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday PM2, July 16 2009 16:00 – 18:00, Grand Ballroom B
doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday PM2, July :00 – 18:00, Grand Ballroom B Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Call for Submissions Presentations and motions Next Steps Conference Calls Schedule Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Thursday PM2 Presentations
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Thursday PM2 Presentations Channel Models Motion Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology Motion Conference Calls Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Motion Move to approve document /0308r6 as the current revision of the IEEE ac Channel Model Addendum document Move: Eldad Perahia (Intel) Second: Venko Erceg (Broadcom) Yes: 31 No: 0 Abstain: 2 Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Motion Move to approve document /0451r7 as the first revision of the ac IEEE Functional Requirements and Evaluation Methodology. Move: Eldad Perahia (Intel) Second: Peter Loc (Ralink Technology) Yes: 36 No: 0 Abstain 7 Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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Conference Calls Schedule
May 2009 doc.: IEEE /0723r0 July 2009 Conference Calls Schedule August 13, 2009 11:00 ET August 27, 2009 20:00 ET September 10, 2009 Osama Aboul-Magd Osama Aboul-Magd
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