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1 Comments on Sub 1 GHz license-exempt operation
Month Year doc.: IEEE /0204r3 April 2010 Comments on Sub 1 GHz license-exempt operation Date: Authors: David Halasz, Aclara David Halasz, Aclara

2 Month Year doc.: IEEE /0204r3 April 2010 Abstract This presentation summarizes some of the comments received on the Sub 1 GHz license exempt PAR & 5c in submission 10/0001r5. David Halasz, Aclara David Halasz, Aclara

3 Comments on Sub 1 GHz license-exempt
April 2010 Comments on Sub 1 GHz license-exempt The bands are not uniform across the world. Roaming users can cause issues. Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt Issues with Annex I & J Difference between IEEE g Coexistance with IEEE g Discuss bands in other countries Discuss minimum data rates Interoperability with IEEE g David Halasz, Aclara

4 April 2010 The bands are not uniform across the world. Roaming users can cause issues. Issue : A U.S. user roams to Europe. The user turns on the Sub 1 GHz wireless card and causes interference. Suggestion : Add text in section 5.2 of PAR to indicate above discussions are within scope. Note : World mode, IEEE d, can address this for mobile nodes. 5.2 Scope of Proposed Standard: This amendment defines standard operation and channelization of license-exempt frequency bands below 1 GHz for IEEE networks while meeting legal requirements across regulatory domains. David Halasz, Aclara

5 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt
April 2010 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt Issue A : Both PARs are concerned with Sub 1 GHz operation. However the rules are different. Suggestion : Add text to section 7.1 and/or 8.1 of PAR mentioning the rules differences. Note : TVWS PAR is 09/934. David Halasz, Aclara

6 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt issue A cont.
April 2010 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt issue A cont. 7.1 Are there other standards or projects with a similar scope? Yes Explanation: IEEE P addresses one product segment of the new regulatory rules. Sponsor Organization: IEEE Project/Standard Number: P g Project/Standard Date: Project/Standard Title: IEEE Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems - Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements - Part 15.4: Wireless Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications for Low Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) - Amendment: Physical Layer(PHY) Specifications for Low Data Rate Wireless Smart Metering Utility Networks Explanation: IEEE P802.11af addresses Television White Spaces, which are below 1 GHz. Project/Standard Number: P802.11af Project/Standard Title: Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems - Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications; Amendment: TV White Spaces Operation David Halasz, Aclara

7 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt issue A cont.
April 2010 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt issue A cont. 8.1 Additional Explanatory Notes: (Item Number and Explanation) 7.1 Are there other standards or projects with a similar scope? P802.11af limits itself to the TV White Space. This PAR is for other license-exempt bands below 1 GHz. David Halasz, Aclara

8 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt
April 2010 Confusion between TVWS and Sub 1 GHz license-exempt Issue B : Both PARs are concerned with Sub 1 GHz operation. Want to avoid completely different solutions. Suggestion : Work towards common solutions. Note : IEEE af has initial text. David Halasz, Aclara

9 April 2010 Issues with Annex I & J Issue A : Annex I/J doesn't cover all regulatory domains Issue B : IEEE does not define regulatory domains. However implementations need this information. Issue C : For changes above and management purposes, regulatory classes may need an update. Suggestion : Handle above issues in TGmb Note : Submission in 10/210r6 approved in TGmb David Halasz, Aclara

10 Difference between IEEE 802.15.4g
April 2010 Difference between IEEE g Issue : Confusion on how this work is different than IEEE g Suggestion : Add text to 8.1 of PAR indicating IEEE g PAR limits data rate to less than 1 Mbit/s. The desire is for an IEEE PHY that scales to higher data rates. 8.1 Additional Explanatory Notes: (Item Number and Explanation) 7.1 Are there other standards or projects with a similar scope? P g limits itself to below 1 Mbit/s. This PAR is for IEEE MAC and PHY that scale to higher data rates. David Halasz, Aclara

11 Coexistance with IEEE 802.15.4g
April 2010 Coexistance with IEEE g Issue : Want to avoid coexistance issues Suggestion : Coordinate with IEEE g on coexistance. Note A : In section of 10/0001 has the following text, “The working group will create a CA document as part of the WG balloting process” Note B : Currently, IEEE g has more than one PHY. So IEEE g should already be expecting coexistance work. David Halasz, Aclara

12 Discuss bands in other countries
April 2010 Discuss bands in other countries Frequency band in MHz Government 1 MHz in Japan China Europe U.S. Japan Reference [1] David Halasz, Aclara

13 Discuss minimum data rates
April 2010 Discuss minimum data rates Channel Width Clocking Data rates in Mbits/S 20 MHz 1 54, 48, 36, 24, 18, 12, 9, 6 10 MHz 1/2 27, 24, 18, 12, 9, 6, 4.5, 3 5 MHz 13.5, 12, 9, 6, 4.5, 3, 2.25, 1.5 2.5 MHz 1/8 6.7, 6, 4.5, 3, 2.25, 1.5, 1.1, .75 1.25 MHz 1/16 3.4, 3, 2.3, 1.5, 1.1, .8, .6, .375 David Halasz, Aclara

14 Interoperability with IEEE 802.15.4g
April 2010 Interoperability with IEEE g Ask if there was any submission David Halasz, Aclara

15 April 2010 References 1) g TG4g PHY Technical Parameters Document (Beecher, Rolfe) David Halasz, Aclara


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