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Agenda-new-SC-August-17-2016-Teleconference
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Agenda-new-SC-August Teleconference Date: Authors:
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Jan 2009 doc.: IEEE /1455r0 Abstract Agenda for: The teleconference of the new Standing Committee to address Action A and Action B3 in the 802 EC 5G/IMT-2020 Report Rev 1: added straw poll and resulting name of SC, slide 22; updated slides 23, 24, and 25 with comments/decisions. Note: SC is now the AANI SC, Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee.
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IEEE 802.11 AANA Standing Committee
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 IEEE AANA Standing Committee Agenda August 17, 2016 Chair: Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Attendance, etc. Call for a secretary: please, volunteer
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Attendance, etc. Call for a secretary: please, volunteer Reminders to attendees: Please send me an to register your attendance Please mute when not speaking No recordings
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search
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July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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Agenda Call for Secretary
Jan 2009 doc.: IEEE /1455r0 Agenda Call for Secretary Administrative: Attendance, Participants, Patents, Duty to Inform, Call for Patents, Guideline, Agenda Status/Background Discuss and decide on the committee's name Discussion and decide meeting times for future teleconferences and the upcoming September Warsaw meeting Discuss draft LS to 3GPP RAN and/or SA on inclusion in 3GPP's proposal to ITU for IMT-2020 (Action B3) New Business Future Sessions Planning
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Status/Background At the July 802 Plenary meeting in San Diego passed a motion to form this committee [1] to: Coordinate and support an IMT-2020 proposal, external proposal (option B3) Coordinate with and support (lead) in meeting the actions towards “IEEE “5G” specification” (option A) Report status to on the activities of this committee. These activities flow from the conclusions of the IEEE 802 EC 5G/IMT-2020 Standing Committee Report [2] The IEEE 802 EC 5G/IMT-2020 SC was charted (Feb-Jul ‘16) by the 802 EC, with Glenn Parson as Chair The SC held multiple F2F (4) and electronic meeting (10) The conclusions of the IEEE 803 EC 5g/IMT-2020 SC [2]: The four Actions addressed under the Standing Committee scope are not mutually exclusive. There is a preference for Action B3, with a secondary desire to progress Action A. Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Support of this activity (Straw Polls)
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Support of this activity (Straw Polls) July WG Straw Polls: Support of option B3: 35 yes, 4 no Support of option A: 19 yes, 8 no 8 members indicated they would participate in Action B3 activity 9 members indicated they would participate in Action A activity July 802 EC 5G/IMT-2020 SC Polls: Support of Action (Chicago rules) A: 30, B1: 6, B2: 2, B3: 46, None: 6 Preference for one Action: A: 22, B1: 0, B2: 0, B3 29, None: 2 Support the Next Step Recommendation: 40 yes, 0 no, 10 DNV Commit to participate in Action A: 13 Commit to participate in Action B: 13 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 The committee's name There is a strong desire not to use “5G” in the name of this committee, as “5G” seems to be an ill defined label Both areas of activity should be considered: Action A – Specify an 802 access network First step organized by WG: to create one or more Industry Connections Projects Action B3 – Support development of a 3GPP proposal to IMT-2020 incorporating reference to the use of IEEE Fist step organized by WG: to liaison with 3GPP Proposed names: Next Generation Networks SC - NGN Next Generation Requirements SC – NGR 2020 Networking SC – 20N Suggestions? (I am not very enamored of any of the above) Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Straw Poll on Committee Name
Advanced Network Interface – ANI PI5 Advanced Packet Network – APN Interfaces to Advanced Networks – I2AN or IAN Advanced Access Network – AAN Next Generation Networks SC - NGN Chicago Straw Poll Results: 1/2/3/4/5/6 – 14/3/3/3/15/2 Proposed merger of 1 and 5: Advanced Access Network Interface – AANI Agreed AANI SC by mutual consent (no objections)
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Meeting times Future teleconferences
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Meeting times Future teleconferences Propose to have at least one more teleconference before the September meeting. Possible dates: August 24 (10:00 am EDT not available) August 31 September 7 (10:00 am EDT not available) Time 10:00 am EDT, 10:00 pm (22:00) EDT, ??? Agreed one Teleconference: September 1, 10:00 am EDT The upcoming September Warsaw F2F meeting: Tuesday September 13, evening, 19:30-21:30 CET Thursday September 15, AM2, 10:30-12:30 CET Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Draft LS to 3GPP RAN Initial ruff Draft in 11-16/1101r0, “Draft LS from to 3GPP RAN and SA on ITM-2020” Briefly reviewed: Suggestion to include 3GPP SA in to and not cc. Adrian Stephens provided some insight to how we may work with 3GPP based on discussions he had with Richard Burbidge (Intel) the 3GPP RAN2 WG chair may need to consider establishing a relationship with 3GPP via the “SDO Council”, LS activity may need to be coordinated through the 3GPP TSG RAN ITU Ad Hoc (RAN AH1 (ITU)). - This need to be confirmed. The Chair called for review, comments, and text proposals for this document. Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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New Business Any other business? August, 17 2016
doc.: IEEE /1093r0 New Business Any other business? Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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Future Sessions Planning
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 Future Sessions Planning Teleconference: September 10:00 am EDT: Continue discussion on LS to 3GPP Request text proposals for the LS to 3GPP September F2F meeting: Tuesday – complete draft LS to 3GPP, so it can be presented at the Mid-Week Plenary for discussion/review Thursday – update LS to 3GPP if necessary, based on discussion/review at the Mid-Week Plenary. Finalize the LS for approval at the Closing Plenary. Goal is to send an LS from to 3GPP RAN before the September 3GPP RAN Plenary meeting (September 19-22), 3GPP SA Plenary meeting (September 21-23) Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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References 11-16-1057-01-0000-802-11-imt-2020-5g-sc-proposal
August, doc.: IEEE /1093r0 References imt g-sc-proposal ec GSG-report-ieee-802-ec-5g-imt-2020-sc Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
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