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A CBR experience
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Agenda Today’s case Post Brexit Pre Brexit - Proposal 1 under CBR
The CBR process experience Taxpayers’ feedback
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Order for Coating services
1. Todays’ case Order for coated lenses Order for Coating services 1 French GroupCo UK GroupCo US company Final client Uncoated lenses Coating Coated lenses 2 3 Invoice for coating services Invoice for supply of coated lenses (export from France in the French VAT reporting)
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Order for Coating services
2. Post Brexit Order for coated lenses Order for Coating services 1 2 UK GroupCo US company Final client French GroupCo Uncoated lenses Coating Coated lenses IPR customs regime Invoice for coating services Invoice for supply of coated lenses (export from the UK – sale abroad from French VAT perspective )
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Voluntary joint liability
3. Pre Brexit – proposal 1 – More liability in exchange for no UK VAT registration French GroupCo Order for coated lenses Order for Coating services 1 2 UK GroupCo US company Final client French GroupCo Uncoated lenses Voluntary joint liability Coating UK groupCo reports French Groupco’s deemed IC-acquisition on its own UK number Coated lenses Invoice for coating services Invoice for supply of coated lenses (sale abroad from French VAT perspective)
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Order for Coating services
4. Pre Brexit – proposal 2 – Inspired by a longstanding German approach Order for a uncoated lenses Order for Coating services 1 2 UK GroupCo US company Final client French GroupCo Uncoated IR lenses Coating (1) Proof of export coated lenses (2) Attestation “connection” in/out Coated lenses Invoice for coating services All transport services Invoice for supply of uncoated lenses (export from FRANCE reported for VAT purposes )
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5. The CBR process experience
2/06/2017 : Request posted to the French CBR contact with the UK CBR contact in cc. 27/09/2017 : Reply from the French authorities with French point of view. France does not reply to the need for UK VAT registration or not. 13/10/2017 : Call with the French CBR file responsible to ask whether the UK will say something too. 14/11/2017: Transmission of the UK reply by the French authorities. Good news, no UK registration needed for French GroupCo. 29/11/2017: Call with the French CBR file responsible noticing that the UK is clear on the “no UK registration needed” but France is not yet clear what to report in France then. 21/12/2017: Request to France for bringing clarity on the French side or make a joint decision. 19/02/2018:
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6. Taxpayer’s feedback Thank you, France and the UK, for the goodwill to consider this case. Good transparency in the process Good contact with the French CBR file responsible at the phone. Feeling that organizing a bilateral discussion moment between the UK and France is not as easy as it looks. Introductory meeting with taxpayer may have been more efficient. If France unilaterally confirms the French compliance requirements, given no UK registration is available for French GroupCo in both proposed scenarios, then it should be solved.
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Thank you !
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