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IEEE 802.11 TGmc May 2014 Agenda Date: 2014-05-15 Authors: May 2014
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 IEEE TGmc May 2014 Agenda Date: Authors: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Abstract This presentation contains the IEEE TGmc agenda for the May 2014 session. Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc Agenda May 2014 Monday PM1 Wednesday PM1 Wednesday PM2 Monday PM2
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 TGmc Agenda Monday PM1 Chair’s Welcome, Status, Review of Objectives, Approve agenda, minutes Editor’s Report Timeline and Schedule Comment resolution: (Adrian), (Eldad) Wednesday PM1 Comment Resolution – Location: Gabor ( ), Carlos A. ( ), (Brian), , Ganesh, (Gilb), CID 2462 Wednesday PM2 Comment Resolution – deprecation CIDs, Motions 3GPP Liaison response Monday PM2 Comment resolution: CID r1, CID , MAC Tuesday PM1 Motions – Teleconference comments Officer elections Comment resolution Thursday AM2 , , Comment Resolution, Motions Plans for July, Schedule Thursday PM2 3GPP Liaison response, AOB Adjourn Tuesday PM2 Comment Resolution –11ad Carlos , Attendance reminder: Documents: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc – Monday PM1 May 2014 Call Meeting to Order
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 TGmc – Monday PM1 Call Meeting to Order Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder **IEEE Patent Policy Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. ** Read slide deck *** Note especially items #7 & #11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Please review the documents at the following links:
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Please review the documents at the following links: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Letter of Assurance Form: Affiliation FAQ: Anti-Trust FAQ: Ethics: 802 LMSC P&P: 802 LMSC OM: 802 WG P&P: IEEE WG OM: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Logistics Attendance recording procedures Documentation
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Logistics Attendance recording procedures Must register before logging attendance Must log attendance during each 2 hour session Documentation Use “TGm” for documents relating to the Revision PAR Slide 6 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 6 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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Monday PM1 (continued) Objectives Approve prior meeting minutes
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Monday PM1 (continued) Objectives Comment resolution Approve prior meeting minutes Beijing minutes: Teleconference minutes: Editor’s Report (Adrian Stephens) Slide 7 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 7 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 March 2014 TGmc Plan of Record 20 July 2012 – 12 Sept 2012 – Call for Comment/Input 29-30 Aug 2012 – NesCom, SASB PAR Approval Sept 2012 – Begin to process input Sept 2012 – 11aa, 11ae integration Jan – First WG Letter ballot - without 11ad Dec 2012 – March/May – 11ad integration Sept 2013 – Letter ballot on D2.0 Dec 2013 – May 2014 – 11ac, 11af integration – D3.0 in May 2014 July 2014 – Mandatory Draft Review Jul - Aug 2014 – Form Sponsor Pool (45 days) Nov 14 – Initial Sponsor Ballot July 2015– WG/EC Final Approval Dec 2015 – RevCom/SASB Approval Slide 8 Dorothy Stanley (Aruba Networks) Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion Page 8 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Additional change At D2.0 Page 2015Line57, replace
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Additional change At D2.0 Page 2015Line57, replace “After performing an IFFT, the output is cyclically extended to the desired length.” With “After performing an IFFT, the output is cyclically extended and the resulting waveform is windowed to the required OFDM symbol length.” Part of CID 2183, agree to incorporate into r8 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc – Wednesday PM2 May 2014 2411 2412 CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 TGmc – Wednesday PM2 2411 16 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause 16 devices have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future. Add text under heading "Devices supporting the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions" 2412 17 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause 17 devices are coupled to Clause 16 DSSS and as such have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 or 17 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future. Add text under heading "Devices supporting the high rate extention to the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions" CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Withdrawn by Commenter Withdrawn by Commenter
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 TGmc – Wednesday PM2 2423 9.1.2 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of all 11b modes. Given the enormous disparity in efficiency between 11b and the OFDM modes, this no longer makes sense as a universal requirement for all products, and any such requirements should be removed, if not necessary to support coexistence. A straightforward way of accomplishing at least some of this is to remove the requirement that ERP PHYs support the 5.5 and 11 Mbps CCK data rates. Since Clause 20 (HT) references Clause 19 (ERP), this would remove 5.5 and 11 Mbps as requirements for HT also. This would not affect the requirment to be able to detect the long or short preamble (1 Mbps and 2 Mbps) and to take appropriate action based on such a detection, thus preserving the current level of coexistence. Delete 5.5 and 11 from list of mandatory data rates for ERP PHY. Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section (P2048 LL30-37) (add 5.5 and 11 to list of exceptions); section (P2054 LL39-40) (delete 5.5 and 11 from list); and Annex B.4.9 (P2307 LL33-37) (remove 5.5 and 11; add new entry ERP1a for 5.5 and 11, optional) 2424 9.1.3 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of the 11b Short Preamble. This is optional for 11b. This requirement no longer makes sense (if it ever did), as there are legacy deployed devices that do not recognize the short preamble or defer for it, and it seems that most deployed devices do not transmit the short preamble. Remove the sentence beginning "In addition, it is mandatory ...". Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section (P2052 LL32-41) (change "three" to "two" and delete short preamble from list; add extra line saying that an ERP STA may support the short preamble); section (P2053 L16) (delete sentence begiining "For the ERP..."); section (P2054 L40) (delete "or short"), and (P2054 L46) (delete "short preamble"). Withdrawn by Commenter CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation Withdrawn by Commenter Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Work items from Jan, March 2014
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Work items from Jan, March 2014 Liaison letter to WFA – Brian Hart, Andrew Myles Response expected in July “Should not” behavior text – Sean March presentation, straw polls held Usage related text, rather than excision – Menzo, Carlos C March presentation - Graham Slide 12 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 12 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0415r0 May 2014 3GPP liaison The liaison request is here: Draft response 1: Draft response 2: Draft response 3: Slide 13 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 13 Sean Coffey, Realtek Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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3GPP liaison- Question 1, 2+
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0415r0 May 2014 3GPP liaison- Question 1, 2+ Does IEEE WG consider WLAN RCPI a suitable metric of WLAN signal strength such that it can be compared to thresholds as in the above described mechanism? We consider the RCPI value as defined in IEEE ™-2012 a suitable metric for signal strength. Could add: However, there may be more suitable metrics or sets of metrics as outlined in the response to question 3. Add 95%. Does IEEE WG consider WLAN RSNI a suitable metric of WLAN signal quality such that it can be compared to thresholds as in the above described mechanism? We consider the RSNI value as defined in IEEE ™-2012 a suitable metric for signal quality and can be used as described Include table of additional metrics ( ) New separate document with background and explanatory material, not referenced in letter Slide 14 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 14 Sean Coffey, Realtek Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0415r0 May 2014 3GPP liaison- Question 3 Does IEEE WG consider any other WLAN signal metric more suitable for the above described mechanism? IEEE Standard ™-2012 defines additional values that you might deem helpful for the envisaged usage scenario. Among them we highlight the channel load and noise histogram that provide channel usage statistics. These statistics can be helpful to identify busy channels complementing RCPI and RSNI measurements. Also Received Signal Strength Indicator (RSSI) measurement methods that mitigate against the effects of short-term channel fading might support the decision making process, however there are no accuracy requirements specified for RSSI. Please note that frequency channel bandwidth, number of spatial streams, and other values also impact QOS and throughput. We consider the use of estimated and/or measured values of WLAN throughput to be more appropriate for the mechanism described. The IEEE Standard ™-2012 defines many metrics suitable for access network selection and traffic routing for the mechanism described in your letter. As detailed below, a technically sound network selection requires using multiple metrics to select the best network for the QOS required by the STA. Slide 15 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 15 Sean Coffey, Realtek Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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Motion 52 – Teleconferences
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 52 – Teleconferences Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Motion MAC-X” Tab “Gen Motion Telecon April-May ” Tab “Editor Motion May 2014” Moved: Mark Hamilton Seconded: Jon Rosdahl Result: Passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion – Officer Elections
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion – Officer Elections Final call for nominations Close call for nominations Move to approve the TGmc officers shown below: Chair: Dorothy Stanley (Aruba Networks) Vice Chair: Mark Hamilton (Spectralink) Vice Chair/Secretary: Jon Rosdahl (CSR) Moved: Michael Montemurro Seconded: David Hunter Results: Approved by Unanimous consent (22 members present) Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TG Editor Appointment and Confirmation
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 TG Editor Appointment and Confirmation Chair re-appoints Adrian Stephens as editor Request from Adrian to appoint 2 sub-editors Emily Qi (Intel) Edward Au (Huawei) Chair appoints Emily Qi and Edward Au as sub-editors TGmc Confirmation vote: Unanimous approval (22 members present) Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion 53 – Remaining “deprecation comments
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 53 – Remaining “deprecation comments Resolve CIDs 2411 and 2412 as “Rejected” with a comment resolution of “The TG discussed the commenter’s proposed changes at length and did not come to consensus to make the proposed change. Concerns raised include loss of backward compatibility and inability to serve emerging market applications.” Moved: VK Jones Seconded: Eldad Perahia Result: Motion Passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion 54 – Monday, Tuesday Comment resolution and discussion
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 54 – Monday, Tuesday Comment resolution and discussion Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Motion MAC-Y” Tab “Gen Motion Hawaii”, except for CID 2183 Incorporate the text changes in and Moved: Adrian Stephens Seconded: Mike Montemurro Result: Motion passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion 55 –Wednesday Presentations
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 55 –Wednesday Presentations Incorporate the text changes in Slide 3, Correction #1 Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Gen Motion Hawaii 2” Moved: Jon Rosdahl Seconded: Ganesh Venkatesan Result: 6-0-2 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion 56 –Thursday Presentations
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 56 –Thursday Presentations Incorporate the text changes in Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Motion MAC-Z” Tab “Gen Motion Hawaii 2” CID 2434 Moved: Mark Hamilton Seconded: David Hunter Result: Motion Passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion 57 – Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB199 on P802.11mc D2.0 Instruct the editor to prepare P802.11mc D3.0 incorporating these resolutions and Approve a 20 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11mc D3.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Moved: Adrian Stephens Seconded: David Hunter Result: Motion passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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May July Meeting Planning
doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 May July Meeting Planning Objectives: WG ballot on D3.0, comment resolution Conference Calls 10am Eastern 2 hour June 20, July 11 Ad-Hoc meeting – none Schedule review Availability of 11mc in the IEEE store D2.0 is available; D3.0 after successful ballot Forward to ISO JTC1/SC6 WG1 D3.0 after successful ballot; enables submission to ISO prior to October ISO meeting Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 Motion –3GPP Liaison Move to approve the 3GPP liaison response in <document> Moved: Seconded: Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 May 2014 References Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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