1. Next Generation V2X Study Group Nov 2018 Agenda
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2. IEEE 802.11 NGV SG Meeting Bangkok, Thailand, Nov 12-16, 2018
Chair: Bo Sun (ZTE)
Vice Chair: Hongyuan Zhang (Marvell)
Secretary: Amelia Andersdotter (Article19)
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3. Meeting Protocol, Attendance, Voting & Document Status
Nov 2018
Meeting Protocol, Attendance, Voting & Document Status
Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot
Cell Phones to be silent or Off
Register your attendance via while on meeting SSID (e.g. Verilan-secure)
Make sure your badges are correct
If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising
Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, Member’s Area
Contact Jon Rosdahl –
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4. Patent Policy and Other Guidelines
Nov 2018
Patent Policy and Other Guidelines
Following 5 slides
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5. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
Nov 2018
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
Participants shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of each holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
Participants should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is encouraged
Slide #1
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6. Nov 2018
Ways to Inform IEEE
Cause an LOA to be submitted to the IEEE-SA or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible; or
Speak up now and respond to this Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance, please respond at this time by providing relevant information to the WG Chair
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7. Patent Related Information
Nov 2018
Patent Related Information
The patent policy and the procedures used to execute that policy are documented in the:
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws (
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual (
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at
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8. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
Nov 2018
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches January be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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9. Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings
Nov 2018
Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings
All participation in IEEE 802 Working Group meetings is on an individual basis
•     Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. ( section 5.2.1)
•    IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. ( section 4.2.1)
You have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. Your obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders.
You shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see section and section 3.4.1, list item x
By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate.
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10. NGV SG Sessions in the week
Nov 2018
NGV SG Sessions in the week
MON
TUE
WED
THU
FRI
AM1
NGV SG
AM2
PM1
PM2
EVE
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11. Agenda items for the week
Nov 2018
Agenda items for the week
Call for order
IEEE-SA policies and IPR policies
Agenda Agreement
Approve Sep meeting minutes and CC minutes
Timeline review
Liaison feedback review
liaison-from-car-2-car-consortium-re-ngv-use-cases-and-requirements.docx
liaison-reply-from-etsi-its-re-ngv-use-cases-and-requirements.docx
PAR/CSD comments and resolution
Tuesday EVE slot
Wednesday AM1 slot
Presenting of submissions for the week
11-18/1878, Considerations for Backward Compatibility, Michael Fischer (NXP)
11-18/1541, railway-use-cases-for-ngv, Stephan Sand (DLR)
11-18/1927, Error correction message, Onn Haran (Autotalks)
11-18/1928, The impact of multi-channel operation, Onn Haran (Autotalks)
11-18/1945, Work breakdown for P802.11bd, James Lepp (BlackBerry)
11-18/1951, etsi-cooperative-awareness-message-cam-generation-rules, Friedbert Berens (FBConsulting Sarl)
11-18/1956, V2X Reed-Solomon Simulation Model, Ioannis Sarris (u-box)
11-18/1964, simulation-of-LTE-V-and-WAVE, Nan Li (ZTE)
11-18/1971, NGV Indication within Legacy Broadcast PPDU, Liwen Chu (Marvell)
11-18/1977, Use Cases for NGV using High Data Rate, Hiroyuki Motozuka (Panasonic)
11-18/1994, Consideration of Common Doppler in C2C Channels (Marvell)
Teleconference Plan
Any other business
Adjourn
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12. Nov 2018
Meeting Slot #1
Monday, AM1 8:00 – 10:00
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13. Agenda Nov 2018 Call meeting to order
IEEE-SA meeting policies and Patent policy
Approve agenda
Approve Sep meeting minutes and CC minutes
Timeline review
Liaison feedback review
liaison-from-car-2-car-consortium-re-ngv-use-cases-and-requirements.docx
liaison-reply-from-etsi-its-re-ngv-use-cases-and-requirements.docx
Call for volunteer for liaison response document (to be reviewed on Thursday)
11-18/1952, Draft Reply LS from to Car 2 Car Consortium, Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
11-18/1950, Draft Reply LS from to ETSI TC ITS, Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
Submissions for the week
11-18/1541, railway-use-cases-for-ngv, Stephan Sand (DLR)
11-18/1927, Error correction message, Onn Haran (Autotalks)
11-18/1928, The impact of multi-channel operation, Onn Haran (Autotalks)
11-18/1945, Work breakdown for P802.11bd, James Lepp (BlackBerry)
Recess
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14. Approval of NGV SG Minutes ( Sep meeting and CC minutes)
Nov 2018
Approval of NGV SG Minutes ( Sep meeting and CC minutes)
Motion: Approve NGV SG minutes of Sep
Move: Jim Lansford
Second: Amelia Andersdotter
Passed unanimous
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15. Nov 2018
Timeline (unchanged)
1. NGV SG kickoff Mar, Motion PAR/CSD Sept. WG Closing Plenary 3. Post to 802 EC Agenda due Oct 5 4. Pre-Post to NesCom Agenda by Oct Plenary process PAR comments November Plenary 6. WG final approval of PAR Nov EC Approval of PAR Nov SASB/NesCom approval of PAR December Task Group first mtg January 2019
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16. Nov 2018
Meeting Slot #2
Tuesday, EVE 19:30 – 21:30
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17. Agenda Call meeting to order
Nov 2018
Agenda
Call meeting to order
IEEE-SA meeting policies and Patent policy
PAR/CSD comments and discussion
11-18/2025, ngv-sg-response-to-comments-per bd-PAR&CSD
Recess
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18. Nov 2018
Motion #1
Move to approve the response to comments per P802.11bd PAR&CSD as in 11-18/2025r1
Move: Amelia Andersdotter
Second: Michael Fischer
Result: 34Y/0N/0A
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19. Motion #2 (Motion for PAR)
Nov 2018
Motion #2 (Motion for PAR)
Believing that the PAR contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, request that the PAR contained in be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for EC approval to submit to NesCom.
Moved: Qinghua Li
Seconded: Rui Yang
Result: 35Y/0N/2A
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20. Nov 2018
Meeting Slot #3
Wednesday, AM1 8:00 – 10:00
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21. Agenda Call meeting to order
Nov 2018
Agenda
Call meeting to order
IEEE-SA meeting policies and Patent policy
Submissions for the week
11-18/1956, V2X Reed-Solomon Simulation Model, Ioannis Sarris (u-box)
11-18/1964, simulation-of-LTE-V-and-WAVE, Nan Li (ZTE)
11-18/1971, NGV Indication within Legacy Broadcast PPDU, Liwen Chu (Marvell)
11-18/1977, Use Cases for NGV using High Data Rate, Hiroyuki Motozuka (Panasonic)
11-18/1994, Consideration of Common Doppler in C2C Channels, Sudhir (Marvell)
11-18/1951, etsi-cooperative-awareness-message-cam-generation-rules, Friedbert Berens (FBConsulting Sarl)
11-18/1541, railway-use-cases-for-ngv, Stephan Sand (DLR). Revisit
Recess
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22. Nov 2018
Meeting Slot #4
Thursday, AM1 8:00 – 10:00
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23. Agenda Call meeting to order
Nov 2018
Agenda
Call meeting to order
IEEE-SA meeting policies and Patent policy
Liaison response document
11-18/1952, Draft Reply LS from to Car 2 Car Consortium, Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
11-18/1950, Draft Reply LS from to ETSI TC ITS, Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
Setup teleconference plan (5 mins)
Uncompleted submissions
11-18/1541, railway-use-cases-for-ngv, Stephan Sand (DLR). Motion.
11-18/1951, etsi-cooperative-awareness-message-cam-generation-rules, Friedbert Berens (FBConsulting Sarl)
11-18/1971, NGV Indication within Legacy Broadcast PPDU, Liwen Chu (Marvell)
11-18/1977, Use Cases for NGV using High Data Rate, Hiroyuki Motozuka (Panasonic). SP.
Any other business?
Adjourn
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24. Nov 2018
Motion #3
Move to adopt the “Train-to-Train” use case on slide 21 and the “Vehicle-to-Train” use case on slide 26 in document 11-18/1541r5 as NGV use cases.
Moved: Stephan Sand
Second: Malik khan
Result:22Y/1Y/8A, Passed
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25. Nov 2018
Motion #4
Move to adopt the “Rich Sensor Sharing” use case on slide 6 in document 11-18/1977r4 as one of NGV use cases.
Moved: Hiroyuki Motozuka
Second: Bahareh SAdeghi
Result: 20Y/8N/12A, Failed
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26. Nov 2018
Motion #5
Approve the liaison statement in 11-18/1950r2 from IEEE to ETSI TC ITS and copied to IEEE 802 EC, Wi-Fi Alliance, ETSI ERM TG37, Car 2 Car Communication Consortium, IEEE 1609 WG, IEEE-SA, IEEE-SA Board of Governors, IEEE 802 LMSC, providing the response to ETSI TC ITS to their LS and the information they have provided in 11-18/1771r0, granting the WG chair editorial license.
Moved: Joseph Levy
Second: Michael Fischer
Result: 37Y/0N/1A, Passed
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27. Nov 2018
Motion #6
Approve the liaison statement in 11-18/1952r2 from IEEE to Car 2 Car Communication Consortium and copied to IEEE 802 EC, Wi-Fi Alliance, ETSI ERM TG37, ETSI TC ITS, IEEE 1609 WG, IEEE-SA, IEEE-SA Board of Governors, IEEE 802 LMSC, providing the response to Car 2 Car Communication Consortium to their LS and the information they have provided in 11-18/1764r0, granting the WG chair editorial license.
Moved: Joseph Levy
Second: Michael Fischer
Result: 31Y/0N/0A, Passed
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28. Teleconference Plan Date: Dec 11 Time: 10:00am ~ 11:59am, ET Agenda
Nov 2018
Teleconference Plan
Date: Dec 11
Time: 10:00am ~ 11:59am, ET
Agenda
11-18/2044, draft-reply-ls-from to-wfa, Joseph Levy
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29. Nov 2018
References
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