1. Report of TGv – September 2005
January 2005
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September 2005
Report of TGv – September 2005
DATE: September 2005
Author(s)
Name
Company
Address
Phone
Pat R. Calhoun
Cisco Systems, Inc
170 West Tasman Dr.,
San Jose, CA 95134
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2. Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the September 2005 session.
January 2005
doc.: IEEE /xxxx
September 2005
Abstract
Report of the meeting of TGv at the September 2005 session.
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3. Proposed Agenda Approve agenda Review IEEE patent policy
September 2005
Approve agenda
Review IEEE patent policy
Approve minutes from last meeting
Attendance Update
Review Weekly Goals
Call for presentations
Technical Pending Objectives Presentations
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4. Proposed Agenda (part 2)
September 2005
Presentation Schedule
Monday (10:30-12:30):
11-05/0891r0 – Location Objective - Stuart Golden
Tuesday (8:00-12:30):
8:00-10:00
11-05/0918r0 – Proposed TGv Process- Emily Qi
11-05/0905r0 - Diagnostics and Troubleshooting Requirements – Emily Qi
11-05/0945r0 – Diagnostics – Joe Epstein
10:30-12:30
11-05/0280r2 – Advanced Antennas – Joe Kwak
11-05/0952r0 – Location Stuff – Darwin Engwer
Thursday (8:00-12:30):
11-05/0906r0 – Spectrum Etiquette – Roger Durand
11-05/0932r1 – Co-Existence in multi-radio devices – Simon Black
11-05/0927r0 – Client Management Protocol Details – Tim Olson
11-05/0827r3 – TGv Objectives – Emily Qi
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5. Proposed Agenda (part 3)
September 2005
Review of Work List
Drop non-objectives for time being
Review of TGv Objectives Text
Prepare/Plan for internal call for substantive text in November
Next steps
Motions for working group
Adjourn
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6. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
January 2005
doc.: IEEE /xxxx
September 2005
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either:
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or
b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination.
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
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7. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2005
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September 2005
Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims
Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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8. Motion to approve TGv July 2005 minutes
September 2005
Moved: to approve meeting minutes 05/0725r1
Mover: Bob O’Hara
Seconder: Paul Gray
Passes: unanimous
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9. Attendance Recording -802.11
September 2005
A sign-in sheet will be located at the Concierge desk
Each member must sign-in “once” (1) per day, between the hours of 0800 and 1700 local time
Participants must “sign” their name in the appropriate place and state of attendance for that day in terms of AM1/AM2, PM1/PM2, EV1 (if an evening meeting exists)
Only “sign-in” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for and other participate.
Attendance will be checked against other 802 groups.
Those found abusing the honor system will loose ALL credit for that day.
These sheets are provided daily. If you don’t sign up during the “regular sign-in” hours, you will NOT be given credit for that day.
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10. ftp://10.0.0.10 www.802wirelessworld.com Obtain Doc numbers
September 2005
ftp://
Obtain Doc numbers
Upload Docs
File synchronization to
local FTP site will be
handled periodically
throughout the day
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11. Goals for September 2005 Individual requirements presentations
As listed under “Pending Work Items” in 05/0796r1
All new presentations will include specific requirements text, which follows the format in 05/0827r0
Complete the objectives specification, ensuring that all objectives have sufficient text (05/0827r0)
Prepare/Plan for internal call for substantive text in November
Finalize the non-objectives
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12. Straw poll #1 Straw poll Text: How do we want to deal with IBSS:
September 2005
Straw poll Text: How do we want to deal with IBSS:
1: Promote it as an active work item
2: Consider it out of scope completely
3: On a case by case basis consider IBSS functionality for all work items
(1:1, 2:4, 3:20)
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13. Straw poll #2
September 2005
Straw poll Text: Does TGv want to include in its objectives support for higher precision ranging
Yes: 20
No: 0
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14. Straw poll #3
September 2005
Straw poll Text: TGv will define a management approach to support Advanced Antennas. For example, the mechanisms defined in 11-05/0280r2 would be one approach.
Yes: 9
No: 3
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15. Motion To request the WG to request the EC to rescind TGv’s PAR
September 2005
To request the WG to request the EC to rescind TGv’s PAR
Mover: Jesse Walker
Seconder: Clint Chaplin
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16. TGv Proposed Timeline The following time table will be used by TGv
September 2005
The following time table will be used by TGv
TG Call for Substantive text: September 2005
Substantive text intent to submit: October 14th, 2005
Must send intent to TGv exploder
Substantive presentation and text on server: November 6th , 2005
Motion to merge/no/abstain on each submission
Merged submissions must work together to create base draft
Merged Base Draft on server: January 11th , 2005
Initial Base Draft must be voted in by July 21st 2006
Vote to rescind PAR if this doesn’t occur
TG Ad-Hoc Draft Internal Review: November 2006
This will be an internal review, with an additional meeting (January) to address internal comments
First WG Letter Ballot: March 2007
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17. Work completed TGv Objectives document Updated (11-05/0827r3)
September 2005
TGv Objectives document Updated (11-05/0827r3)
In Scope:
11-05/0891r0 – Location Objective - Stuart Golden
11-05/0905r0 - Diagnostics and Troubleshooting Requirements – Emily Qi
11-05/0945r0 – Diagnostics – Joe Epstein
11-05/0280r2 – Advanced Antennas – Joe Kwak
11-05/0952r0 – Location Stuff – Darwin Engwer
11-05/0906r0 – Spectrum Etiquette – Roger Durand
11-05/0932r1 – Co-Existence in multi-radio devices – Simon Black
11-05/0927r0 – Client Management Protocol Details – Tim Olson
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18. Work Completed (Part 2) Work List updated (11-05/0796r3)
September 2005
Work List updated (11-05/0796r3)
Adopted substantive text selection process (11-05/0918r2)
2 TGv Objectives still unassigned: AP MIB, Fault Tolerance
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19. Attendance Attendance: Monday: ?? Tuesday: 28 Thursday: 41
September 2005
Attendance:
Monday: ??
Tuesday: 28
Thursday: 41
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20. Output Documents 11-05/0796r3 – TGV Work List
September 2005
11-05/0796r3 – TGV Work List
11-05/0827r3 – TGv Objectives
11-05/0914r0 – TGv September 2005 meeting report (this document)
11-05/0931r1 – TGv September 2005 meeting minutes
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21. Goals for November
September 2005
Present Load Balancing (05/0629r0), Rate Control (05/0630r0) and To SNMP or not to SNMP (Tim Olson/Simon Black)
Presentations and associated word document (text) that address objectives (11-05/0827r3), based on TGv process defined (11-05/0918r2)
Close on Objectives in TGv
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22. Adjourn Meeting adjourned at 12:30 on September 22, 2005
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