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TGac November 2011 Agenda Date: 2011-11-06 Authors: November 2011
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 TGac November 2011 Agenda Date: Authors: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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IEEE 802.11ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group
November 2011 IEEE ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group Atlanta, Georgia November 06-11, 2011 Chair: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Vice Chair: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) Vice Chair: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey (Apple) Secretary: David Yang (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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November 2011 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
November 2011 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
November 2011 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 5 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Policy Following 5 slides November 2011 November 2011
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Instructions for the WG Chair
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda Items for the Week
November 2011 Agenda Items for the Week Editor Report and Review from September and november ad hoc meetings Approve minutes from September meeting. Approve telecon minutes, (August 18, 25 and September 1, 8). Approve minutes from November Ad Hoc meeting, San Jose, California Approve resolutions to comments resolved during Telecons and the ad hoc meeting. Complete LB 178 Comment Resolution and proceed to WG LB. Ad Hoc group meetings and straw polls (pre-motions) Schedule telecons and ad hoc meeting. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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General Flow of the Meeting
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 General Flow of the Meeting Monday November 7th, 13:30 – 15:30 IEEE IPR and Patent Policy Approve of Sept meeting minutes, Nov Ad Hoc meeting, and telecons minutes. Editor Report Comment Resolution Tuesday November 8th, 10:30 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations, straw polls, and pre-motions Tuesday November 8th 13:30 – 15:30 Tuesday November 8th 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting TG Motions Wednesday November 9th 13:30 – 15:30 Thursday November 10th, 10:20 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations and Straw Polls Thursday November 10th, 13:30 – 15:30 Thursday November 10nd, 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls TG Motions Presentations Goals for January 2011 Ad Hoc meeting and Conference calls Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Monday, November 7th, 13:30 – 15:30
TG Meeting Patent policy, etc. Call for submissions Set agenda and Ad Hoc groups schedule. Editor Report. TG motions Approve minutes from September meeting, November Ad Hoc meeting, and Telecons (September 29 and October 6, 13, 20, 27) Approve resolutions to comments resolved during Telecons. Approve resolutions to comments resolved during the Nov. Ad Hoc meeting. TG documents and presentations Recess for Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submissions PHY MAC November 2011
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Submissions PHY - Yongho MAC 11/1519 11/1520 11/xxxx Tianyu 11/1041r1 11/1518r0 11/xxxx Sandhya Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submission (Cntd) Coexistence MU-MIMO November 2011
- Yongho MU-MIMO - Nir Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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TGac Schedule in a Glance
November 2011 TGac Schedule in a Glance Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday AM1 MAC (Vinings) potential AM2 PHY xxxx PM1 TGac COEX MU PM2 Evening Potential = potentially available to add to TGac xxxx = to be assigned if needed Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Summary from San Jose Ad Hoc Meeting
November 2011 Summary from San Jose Ad Hoc Meeting Thanks for Cisco for hosting the meeting. 33 Submissions were discussed over three days, November 2-4. Resolutions to 166 CIDs agreed to (passed straw poll (pre-motion)). Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Editor Report Technical Editor: Robert Stacey November 2011
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November 2011 Approval of Minutes (September 2011 Meeting, November Ad Hoc Meeting, and Telecons) Move to approve September 2011 TGac meeting minutes available at: TGac Telecons minutes available at: TGac Nov Ad Hoc Move: Menzo Second: Joonsuk Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #20
November 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #20 Move to approve comment resolutions as in: PHY_2011_11_02_adhoc PHY_2011_10_27_telecon PHY_2011_10_20_telecon PHY_2011_10_13_telecon PHY_2011_10_06_telecon PHY_07_07_11 MU MU MU MU MU Telecon GEN f2f Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #20 (Cntd)
November 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #20 (Cntd) MAC f2f MAC f2f MAC Telecon COEX F2F COEX F2F COEX F2F Move: Menzo Second: Joonsuk Yes: 47 No: 1 Abstain: 3 Motion Passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #21
November 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #21 Move to approve comment resolutions as in: Editorial Technically Resolved Editorial Withdrawn Move: Menzo Second: Joonsuk Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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November 2011 Motion #1 Move to add changes to Clause and add a new section as in 11/1364r0 Move: Youhan Second: Menzo Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th , 8:00 – 10:00
MAC Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 10:30 – 12:30
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 10:30 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 13:30 – 15:30
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 13:30 – 15:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 16:00 – 18:00 TGac Meeting TG motions Recess for Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, November 8th, 19:30 – 21:30
MAC Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Wednesday, November 9th, 08:00 – 10:00
MAC Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Wednesday, November 9th, 13:30 – 15:30
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Agenda for Wednesday, November 9th, 13:30 – 15:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Wednesday, November 9th, 16:00 – 18:00
MAC Ad Hoc Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, November 10th, 10:30 – 12:20
Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, November 10th, 13:30 – 15:30
Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, November 10th, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Agenda for Thursday, November 10th, 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting TG Motions Goals for January 2011 Ad Hoc Meeting(s) Conference calls Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion # 22
November 2011 Move to approve comment resolutions as in: PHY_2011_11_08_adhoc MU MU MAC b MAC MAC b MAC MAC f2f MAC ADHOC Editor COEX Plenary Move: Menzo Second: Brian Yes: 49 No:1 Abstain:2 Motion passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #23
November 2011 Comment Resolution Motion #23 Instruct the editor to update the TGac draft to include the changes described under change Set #1, as described in Doc # 11-11/1518r3 Move: Menzo Second: Brian Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion # 24
November 2011 Comment Resolution Motion # 24 Instruct the editor to update the TGac draft to include the changes described in Doc # 11-11/1387r4 for CIDs 2157 and 2158. Move: Menzo Second: Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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November 2011 Motion #2: Having approved changes to TGac Draft D1.0, as defined in Doc r11. Instruct the editor to prepare TGac Draft D2.0, and Approve a 30 day Working Group Technical Letter Ballot asking the question “Should TGac Draft D2.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Move: Menzo Wentink Second: Joonsuk Kim Yes: 59 No: 1 Abstain: 4 Motion passes Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Goals for January 2012 Resolve comments on draft D2.0 November 2011
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Conference call times January 12, 2012 January 26, Feb 9 February 2nd
November 2011 doc.: IEEE /1419r0 November 2011 Conference call times Not to overlap with TGad Previously Approved Nov 17, Dec. 8 20: :00 ET Dec 1, Dec 15 10:00-12:00 ET January 12, 2012 10:00 – 12:00 ET January 26, Feb 9 20:00 – 22:00 February 2nd 10:00 – 12:00 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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November 2011 March Ad Hoc Meeting Authorize TGac to hold an ad-hoc meeting on March 7-9, 2012 in the Bay area, for the purpose of speeding progress on D2.0 comment resolution. Move: Menzo Second: Sean Yes:49 No:0 Abstain:0 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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