1. TGu Agenda Date: 2005-03-14 Authors: March 2005 March 2005
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2. March 2005
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Abstract
Agenda for TGu Interworking with External Networks for March 2005, Atlanta, Georgia.
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3. Monday 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30 Call to Order
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Monday 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
Call to Order
On-line Attendance reminder
Review IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures
Intellectual Property
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4. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
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5. Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005
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Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005
At the December 2004 meeting of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee (PatCom), Paul Nikolich (Chair, 802) on behalf of Stuart Kerry (Chair, )led discussion on an agenda item titled 'Discussion of P802.11n Protest'. You noted that some members of the P802.11n working group requested a clarification of policy from PatCom regarding what would be acceptable to discuss during a working group technical presentation, regarding patent information/statements. PatCom is charged with providing oversight for the use of patents and patent information in IEEE Standards. PatCom is also charged with reviewing patent information submitted to the IEEE Standards Department to determine conformity with patent procedures and guidelines. As empowered by the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, PatCom has reviewed the information presented and rendered its decision by interpreting the policies and procedures of the IEEE and the IEEE-SA relevant to the issues. In regards to the presentation of information to a standards development group, PatCom has decided the following: 1. After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator. 2. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited.
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6. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,
contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

7. March 2005
Meeting Etiquette
"Individuals are to address the comments of others only, not the person"
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8. Monday (cont.) 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
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Monday (cont.) 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
Minutes
Approval of Minutes of January 2005 TGu
u-minutes-january-2005.doc
Approve Agenda
Overview of last TGu meeting
u-closing-report.ppt
Teleconference Minutes
u-telecon-minutes-february-2005.doc
u-telecon-minutes-march-2005.doc
Editor nominations
Draft scenarios document
Draft requirements document
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

9. Monday (cont.) 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
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Monday (cont.) 14 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
Liaison Issues
Incoming
Outgoing
Volunteers
TGu Process
wien-process.ppt
Review external bodies documentation
Technical Presentations
TGu Open Issues review
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

10. March 2005
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Tuesday 15 March 2005, 16:00 – 21:30
Discussion and drafting of requirements and down selection criteria documents
Review IETF Internet Drafts
Architectural Implications of Link Indications
Link-layer Event Notifications for Detecting Network Attachments
Creation of Comment response (if any are required)
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

11. March 2005
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Thursday 17 March 2005, 08:00 – 10:00
Complete comments document to IETF (if required)
Approve any document
Selection Criteria discussions
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

12. Thursday 17 March 2005, 10:30 – 11:30* (1 hour only)
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Thursday 17 March 2005, 10:30 – 11:30* (1 hour only)
IEEE Joint Session
Brief summary of IEEE u scope
Update on IEEE u requirements gathering phase
Formal liaison relationships
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

13. Thursday 17 March 2005, 11:30 – 12:30 Teleconference requirements
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Thursday 17 March 2005, 11:30 – 12:30
Teleconference requirements
Preparation for May 2005 Interim Meeting
AOB
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

14. WNG/WIEN Interworking Documents
March 2005
WNG/WIEN Interworking Documents
Technical Submissions to WNG SC
Justified creation of WIEN SG
Requirements from external groups
3GPP/2
WiFi Alliance
Operators
xDSL
IEEE
Reassessment within .11u
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15. WNG/WIEN SG Documents March 2005 March 2005
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WNG/WIEN SG Documents
wng-wfa-public-access-overview.ppt
wng-Interworking-Policy.ppt
wng-Interworking-AdmissionControl.ppt
wng-co-existence-of-different-authentication-.ppt
wng-hotspot-evolution.ppt
wng-interworking-sg-justification.doc
wng-3gpp-requirements-wlan-selection.ppt
wng-backend-interworking-security.ppt
wng-3gpp-wlan-interworking-security.ppt
wien-wlan-interworking-scenarios.ppt
wien-3gpp-wlan-interworking-issues.ppt
wien-network-selection.ppt
wien-3gpp-sa3-interworking-security-issues.ppt
wien-considerations-about-network-selection.ppt
wien-network-side-issues-in-wlan-interworking.ppt
wien-domain-identification-predictive-handover-among-different-domains.ppt
wien-3gpp-wlan-interworking-requirements.ppt
wien-selling-network-access.ppt
wien-anonymous-mac-addresses.ppt
wien-arid-use-case.ppt
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

16. PAR Open Issues I March 2005 Network Detection and Selection
This provides additional information to STAs about the characteristics of the network to support network selection decisions.
As part of this, IEEE u will investigate aspects related to beacon scaleability.
Secure Portal Page/IEEE i co-existence
The majority of current hotspots use portal pages to support authentication and a solution is needed for allowing the full IEEE i to operate in parallel.
Issues include support for new user sign up in IEEE i enabled networks
TGr co-existance
ADS SG
MAC address anonymity
This provides protection for the terminal identity
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17. PAR Open Issues II March 2005 Policy enforcement External QoS mapping
Issue concern how policy rules from the network are enforced within the IEEE access point
Specific requirements placed on IEEE by external network operators, where traffic enforcement policies are applied to user traffic. This particularly applies to the scenario where multiple operators share the IEEE hotspot infrastructure.
External QoS mapping
Issues concerning specific external network requirements mapping to IEEE
Issues concerning the co-ordination of admission control between the air interface and external networks
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18. PAR Open Issues III March 2005 Charging Access Router identifier
Specifically charging information, generated within the Access Point, is required to be communicate to the external network
IEEE u will define a mechanism to collect such information
Access Router identifier
This is either within the beacon or is an information element within an IEEE k neighbor information element.
It provides an indication as to whether handover is at layer 2 or layer 3.
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