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IEEE 802.11 TGmc January 2014 Agenda
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 IEEE TGmc January 2014 Agenda Date: Authors: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Abstract This presentation contains the IEEE TGmc agenda for the January 2014 session. Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc Agenda January 2014 Monday PM1 Wednesday PM1 Wednesday PM2
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 TGmc Agenda Monday PM1 Chair’s Welcome, Status, Review of Objectives, Approve agenda, minutes Editor’s Report Timeline and Schedule Comment resolution- Dan Harkins 41r0, Adrian:703r3 and 1314r13 Wednesday PM1 CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation Wednesday PM2 Comment Resolution – 1509r0 + other Location Tuesday PM1 CID 2199, 2466 (30r0, 49r0) Carlos C. CIDs 2486, 2487,2474 (1399r07) CIDs 2065, 2169, 2054, 2187, 2170 Adrian: 14/57r2 Thursday PM1 CID 2434 ( ) Comment Resolution Thursday PM2 Motions Comment resolution Plans for March, AOB Adjourn Tuesday PM2 Motions – telecons 1455r0 –CID 2263, Adrian: 875r7, MAC comments, GEN comments Attendance reminder: Documents: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc – Wednesday PM1 January 2014 2411 2412 CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 TGmc – Wednesday PM1 2411 16 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause 16 devices have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future. Add text under heading "Devices supporting the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions" 2412 17 As noted in CID 32,"11b is Poison". Clause 17 devices are coupled to Clause 16 DSSS and as such have the capability of bringing 2.4GHz networks to their knees. 13/0416 (latest is r5 at time of writing comment) shows that there is no technical reason to maintain Clause 16 or 17 devices. It is suggested that a note be added to this Clause to indicate that it is now 'out of favor' and that it is likely to be dropped in the (near) future. Add text under heading "Devices supporting the high rate extention to the DSSS system are no longer encouraged and likely to be deprecated from this Specification in subsequent revisions" CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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TGmc – Wednesday PM1 January 2014 2423 2424 CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 TGmc – Wednesday PM1 2423 9.1.2 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of all 11b modes. Given the enormous disparity in efficiency between 11b and the OFDM modes, this no longer makes sense as a universal requirement for all products, and any such requirements should be removed, if not necessary to support coexistence. A straightforward way of accomplishing at least some of this is to remove the requirement that ERP PHYs support the 5.5 and 11 Mbps CCK data rates. Since Clause 20 (HT) references Clause 19 (ERP), this would remove 5.5 and 11 Mbps as requirements for HT also. This would not affect the requirment to be able to detect the long or short preamble (1 Mbps and 2 Mbps) and to take appropriate action based on such a detection, thus preserving the current level of coexistence. Delete 5.5 and 11 from list of mandatory data rates for ERP PHY. Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section (P2048 LL30-37) (add 5.5 and 11 to list of exceptions); section (P2054 LL39-40) (delete 5.5 and 11 from list); and Annex B.4.9 (P2307 LL33-37) (remove 5.5 and 11; add new entry ERP1a for 5.5 and 11, optional) 2424 9.1.3 The standard requires 11n and 11g (i.e., HT and ERP) PHYs to support transmit and receive of the 11b Short Preamble. This is optional for 11b. This requirement no longer makes sense (if it ever did), as there are legacy deployed devices that do not recognize the short preamble or defer for it, and it seems that most deployed devices do not transmit the short preamble. Remove the sentence beginning "In addition, it is mandatory ...". Also make corresponding changes throughout, including section (P2052 LL32-41) (change "three" to "two" and delete short preamble from list; add extra line saying that an ERP STA may support the short preamble); section (P2053 L16) (delete sentence begiining "For the ERP..."); section (P2054 L40) (delete "or short"), and (P2054 L46) (delete "short preamble"). CIDs 2423, 2424 – ERP PHY CIDs 2411, 2412 – DSSS deprecation Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Timeline Info 11mc ballot in March or May
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Timeline Info 11mc NOT going out to ballot in January Suggest discussion, review of proposed text & straw polls this week 11mc ballot in March or May Slide 6 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 6 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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Deprecation CID documents
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Deprecation CID documents Graham: Brian/Andrew: Slide 7 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 7 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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TGmc – Monday PM1 January 2014 Call Meeting to Order
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 TGmc – Monday PM1 Call Meeting to Order Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder **IEEE Patent Policy Are there any patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that the participant believes may be essential for the use of that standard? Minute any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. ** Read slide deck *** Note especially items #7 & #11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Please review the documents at the following links: - IEEE Patent Policy - - Patent FAQ - - LoA Form - - Affiliation FAQ - - Anti-Trust FAQ - - Ethics - - IEEE Working Group P&P - 802 WG P&P: New 802 LMSC P&P: New 802 LMSC OM: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Logistics Attendance recording procedures Documentation
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Logistics Attendance recording procedures See 11-09/0246r0 Must register before logging attendance Must log attendance during each 2 hour session Documentation Use “TGm” for documents relating to the Revision PAR Slide 10 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 10 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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Monday PM1 (continued) Objectives Approve prior meeting minutes
July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Monday PM1 (continued) Objectives Comment resolution Approve prior meeting minutes Editor’s Report (Adrian Stephens) Slide 11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 11 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion
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July 2010 May 2010 doc.: IEEE /0503r4 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 TGmc Plan of Record 20 July 2012 – 12 Sept 2012 – Call for Comment/Input 29-30 Aug 2012 – NesCom, SASB PAR Approval Sept 2012 – Begin to process input Sept 2012 – 11aa, 11ae integration Jan – First WG Letter ballot - without 11ad Dec 2012 – March/May – 11ad integration Sept 2013 – Letter ballot on D2.0 Dec 2013 – March 2014 – 11ac integration Letter Ballot on D3.0 (includes 11ac) March 2014 Mar 2014 – April 2014 – 11af integration Letter Ballot on D4.0 (includes 11af) July 2014 July 2014 – Mandatory Draft Review Jul - Aug 2014 – Form Sponsor Pool (45 days) Nov 14 – Initial Sponsor Ballot July 2015– WG/EC Final Approval Sept 2015 – RevCom/SASB Approval Slide 12 Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Page 12 Michael Montemurro, Research in Motion Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion 44 – Telecons Moved: Jon Rosdahl Seconded: Mike Montemurro
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Motion 44 – Telecons Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Motion MAC-R” and Tabs “Gen Motion Dallas C” and “Gen Motion Telecon 1” Incorporate the changes indicated in Moved: Jon Rosdahl Seconded: Mike Montemurro Result: Passes Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Presentations & Comments
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Motion - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Presentations & Comments Approve resolutions to comments in Tab “Motion MAC-S” and Tab “Gen Motion ” Incorporate the text changes indicated in Moved: Seconded: Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion – Approve comment resolutions to comments in
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Motion – Approve comment resolutions to comments in “Gen Motion xx” tab “Motion MAC-x” Tab “ed motion x” tab Moved: Seconded: Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Motion – Moved: Seconded: Result:
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Motion – Incorporate the text changes indicated in replacement text (duplicate cache rules re-write) – CIDs 2023, 2496 Moved: Seconded: Result: Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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Jan - Mar Meeting Planning
July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 Jan - Mar Meeting Planning Objectives Comment resolution Conference Calls 10am Eastern 2 hour Feb 7, 14, 21, 28 Ad-Hoc meeting? Schedule review Availability of 11mc in the IEEE store D2.0 is available; D3.0 after successful ballot Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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July 2010 doc.: IEEE /0291r0 January 2014 References Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks Dorothy Stanley, Aruba Networks
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