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November 2006 Mesh Agenda Authors: November 2006 Date: 2006-11-14
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 November 2006 Mesh Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Company Phone Donald Eastlake 3rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA Motorola Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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IEEE 802.11s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 IEEE s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dallas, Texas 13-16 November, 2006 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd Technical Editor: Steve Conner – Recording Secretary: Stephen Rayment Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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General Flow of the TGs Meeting
November 2006 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Morning Ad Hoc meeting Resolution of Informal Comments, Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Discussion Security Wednesday Afternoon Thursday Morning Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Other Technical Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Monday, 13 November 2006 8:00-11:00 (Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Monday, 13 November :00-11:00 (Reunion E Room) Call ad hoc meeting to Order Selection of Temporary Secretary for ad hoc meeting Dee Denteener Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics Ad hoc Meeting Agenda approved Presentations “Editorial updates to clause 5.2.7”, Steven Conner, 11-06/1637r1 “RFI Update Munich Meeting”, Guenael Strutt, 11-06/1629r1 “Definition of Broadcast Mesh”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-06/1619r0 and 11-06/1732r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Monday, 13 November 2006 8:00-11:00 (cont., Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Monday, 13 November :00-11:00 (cont., Reunion E Room) Presentations (cont.) “Concerns regarding CCF?”, Michelle Gong, 11-06/1716r0 Straw Poll: Do you think that there are problems with CCF which we need to address? Yes: no: 3 abstain: 6 Straw Poll: Do you think that the co-existence problem (i.e., Concern 4 in 11-06/1716r0) with CCF needs to be addressed? Yes: no: 2 abstain 4 Straw Poll: Do you think that the compatibility problem (i.e., Conern 5 in 11-06/1716r0) with CCF needs to be addressed? Yes: 6 no: abstain: 10 Announced s tutorial 18:30 this evening Count of how many are interested in various areas: MAC: 4 RFI: Security: 5 Other: 2 Divide into subgroups, one in each corner of the room, for informal comment resolution Adjourn until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Tuesday, 14 November 2006 10:30-12:30 (Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Tuesday, 14 November :30-12:30 (Reunion E Room) Call to Order Attendance Recording Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics Agenda approved by unanimous consent Minutes, all approved by unanimous consent September 2006 Meeting Minutes, 11-06/1565r0 Teleconference Minutes 4 October 2006, 11-06/1569r0 18 October 2006, 11-06/1602r0 8 November 2006, 11-06/1676r0 Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes 2-3 Nov. (Munich) Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes, 11-06/1652r1 13 Nov. Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes, 11-06/1763r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Tuesday, 14 November 2006 10:30-12:30 (cont., Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Tuesday, 14 November :30-12:30 (cont., Reunion E Room) Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-06/1753r0 Status of TGs Draft and Informal Comments, W. Steve Conner, /r17, D0.04 Note: The CAC has considered the resolution to CID 69, 70, 71 and 208 in document 11-06/1505r2, adopted in Melbourne, which temporarily changes the CCA threshold under some circumstances and decided that this is outside of the scope of the TGs PAR. Moved, to adopt Draft D0.04 with the retraction immediately above Mover: Mathilde Benveniste Seconder: Guenael Strutt Yes: no: 1 abstain: 2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Tuesday, 14 November 2006 10:30-12:30 (cont., Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Tuesday, 14 November :30-12:30 (cont., Reunion E Room) Resolution of Informal Review comments / Improvement of the Draft “Interworking with Multi Portals in Wireless Mesh Network” Yonggyu Kim, 11-06/1678r1 Straw Poll: Are you in favor of the multi-domain mesh network to resolve interworking problems in multi portal configuration? Yes: 7 No: 8 Abstain: 20 Straw Poll: Are you in favor of the single-domain mesh network to resolve interworking problems in multi portal configuration? Yes: 1 No: 6 Abstain: 34 “Editorial updates to clause 5.2.7”, Steven Conner, 11-06/1637r1 “RFI Update Munich Meeting”, Guenael Strutt, 11-06/1629r1 “Problems with CCF”, Mathilde Benveniste, 11-06/1777r0 Straw Poll: Are you concerned about the inclusion of CCF in the Draft? Yes: 19 No: 4 Abstain: 18 12:25 Straw Poll: Should we expect to go to Letter Ballot by the end of this week? Yes: 24 No: 7 Abstain: 11 Recess until 16:00 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Automated Attendance Recording
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. Note: This is NOT the system that will be used at this meeting for or other groups. Note: This is a Phase 1 system. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for attendance or contact information update! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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IPR Notice Procedure November 2006 At Each Meeting, the Chair shall:
Show slides #1 and #2 of this presentation (the following two slides) Advise the membership that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged; Disclosures made of such patents may not be exhaustive of all patents that may be essential for the use of standards under development, and that neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG Chairman ensure the accuracy or completeness of any disclosure or whether any disclosure is of a patent that, in fact, may be essential for the use of standards under development. Instruct the Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant meeting: That the foregoing advice was provided and the two slides were shown; That an opportunity was provided for members to identify or disclose patents that the member believes may be essential for the use of that standard; Any responses that were given, specifically the patents and patent applications that were identified (if any) and by whom. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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#1: IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 #1: IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion. The patent holder or applicant should provide this assurance as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided no later than the approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003, Reaffirmed January 2006 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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#2: Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 #2: Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003, Reaffirmed January 2006 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Miscellaneous Announcements
November 2006 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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ANTI-TRUST STATEMENT November 2006 November 2006
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 ANTI-TRUST STATEMENT Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:00-18:00 (Reunion E Room)
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Tuesday, 14 November :00-18:00 (Reunion E Room) Attendance Recording Security “Comminus”, Dan Harkins, 11-06/883r3 “Update to Efficient Mesh Security and Link Establishment”, 11-06/1625r3, 11-06/1470 (doc) Moved, to direct the editor to incorporate the changes in 11-06/1637r1 into the draft as the resolution of CID 256. Mover: Steve Conner Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Other Resolution of Informal Review comments / Improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Submissions to be Presented
November 2006 Submissions to be Presented Will be considered in the order below to the extent allowed by the agenda and the speaker are ready and wish to present. More presentations can be added to this list during the meeting. “Definition of Broadcast Mesh”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-06/1619r0 and 11-06/1732r0 “Concerns regarding CCF?”, Michelle Gong, 11-06/1716r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:30-15:30
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Wednesday, 15 November :30-15:30 Attendance recording reminder Resolution of Informal Review comments / Improvement of the Draft Recess until 8:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Thursday, 16 November 2006 8:00-12:30 Attendance recording reminder
doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 Thursday, 16 November :00-12:30 Attendance recording reminder Resolution of Informal Review comments / Improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Discussion and Votes re Process “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-06/1753r1 Other Technical Presentations Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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[Reference Information]
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 [Reference Information] PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Trivial update: Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1 Proposals: 11-05/597r21 Confirmed Proposal: 11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs 11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft: 11-06/602r16: Resolution of informal comments received May 1, 2006 Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) 11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s 11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope 11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists 11-04/662r16: Usage Models 11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s Miscellaneous Graphs and Mesh, see r0 “Free the APs” Button Graphics: 11-04/518r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
November 2006 doc.: IEEE /1568r4 November 2006 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11-06/1565r0 July 2006 San Diego, California, 11-06/1007r0 June 2006 Ad Hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-06/849r0 May 2006 Meeting, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-06/775r0 March 2006 Meeting, Denver, Colorado, 11-06/445r0 January 2006 Meeting, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-06/77r0 November 2005 Meeting, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-05/1156r0 September 2005 Meeting, Garden Grove, California, 11-05/965r0 July 2005 Meeting, San Francisco, California, 11-05/715r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes 2 August 2006, 11-06/1146r0 6 September 2006, 11-06/1377r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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