1. May 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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May 2011 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliation
Phone
Dee Denteneer
HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands
Philips
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2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
May 2011
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Palm Springs (Ca)
May 9-13, 2011
Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips)
Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips)
Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony)
Secretary: Guenael Strutt ()
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

3. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
May 2011
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia
Resolution of Comments & discussion of professional editing process
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
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4. Miscellaneous Announcements
May 2011
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group.
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5. May 2011
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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6. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

7. Patent Related Links
May 2011
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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8. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

9. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

10. Automated Attendance Recording
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to
(Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
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11. Monday, 9 May 2011 10:30-12:30 secretary selection
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Monday, 9 May :30-12:30
secretary selection
Call Meeting to Order
Miscellaneous Announcements
Automated attendance reminder
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Meeting Agenda
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

12. Monday, 9 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Approval of Minutes:
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Approval of Minutes:
Singapore meeting minutes: 11-11/373r0
Teleconference minutes:
April14: /0682r0
April 21: /0683r0
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

13. Monday, 9 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Get on 1 page
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Get on 1 page
Status update: Third recirculation of Sponsor Ballot
Status update: Fourth recirculation of Sponsor Ballot, see r0.
Comments overview and assignments
Address selected Disapprove comment(er)s
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

14. May 2011
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Motion : to add the comments received from David Hunter to the comments received during the fourth Sponsor Recirculation and to include them into the comment resolution process for Draft 11.0, subject to the regular scoping rules that hold for the Sponsor Ballot.
Mover: Kazuyuki Sakoda Seconder: Peter Yee
Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 1
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15. Monday, 9 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Special attention items
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Special attention items
Must satisfy comments (18) from Michael Bahr
Comments by David Hunter (177, 120 editorial)
Essentials ?
On editorial comments: if we do not manage, relegate to technical editor who will review the Draft end of may (if all works well).
Comment line 65, PIFS access for MCCA out of scope?, also e.g. line 158 on OOB for TDLS.
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

16. Monday, 9 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Contributions: Resolution of Comments
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Monday, 9 May :30-12:30
Contributions:
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Monday 19:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

17. Monday, 9 May 2011 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Monday, 9 May :30-21:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Kazuyuki Sakoda presented:11-11/0737r0: G-General resolution text
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Tuesday 10:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

18. Tuesday, 10 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Tuesday, 10 May :30-12:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Michael Bahr
11-11/0687r0: Need and Proposal for flexible DTIM setting in MCCA
Kazuyuki Sakoda
11-11/0713r0: Mesh STA baseline consistency
11-11/0721r1: Mesh beaconing synchronization
Guido
Request to relabel CID4294 to MPM
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

19. Tuesday, 10 May 2011 10:30-12:30 May 2011 Name Issue Assignee Status
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Name
Issue
Assignee
Status
Jon Rosdahl
CID Still disagree with the CRC position.
Knut Odman
Dee/Qi
Mathilde Benveniste
Dee
Revisit argumentation in the comments
David Hunter
Various
Michael Bahr
Kaz & Michael
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20. Tuesday, 10 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Request to relabel CID4294 to MPM
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Request to relabel CID4294 to MPM
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Tuesday 13:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

21. Tuesday, 10 May 2011 13:30-15:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Tuesday, 10 May :30-15:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Wednesday 13:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

22. May 2011
Presentation queue
Kaz, 11-11/0713r0: Mesh STA baseline consistency 11-11/0721r1: Mesh beaconing synchronization 11-11/0737r2: G-General resolution text 11-11/07:69 Channel switch resolution text Michael Bahr 11-11/0560r5: DTIM interval setting in MCCA Guido Hiertz 11-11/0772r0: Resolution to CID 4195 Dan Harkins 11-11/0781r0: seccomres-4th-recirc
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23. May 2011
Presentation queue
Jarrko Kneckt/Kazuyuki Sakoda 11-11/0714r2: Mesh power management
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24. Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:30-15:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Wednesday, 11 May :30-15:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Resolution of Comments
Recess until 16:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

25. Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Wednesday, 11 May :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Contributions:
Resolution of Comments
Recess until Thursday
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

26. Thursday, 12 May 2011 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Thursday, 12 May :00-10:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments
Recess until 10:30
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

27. Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:30-12:30 Call Meeting to Order
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Thursday, 12 May :30-12:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments
Recess until 16:00
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

28. Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
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Thursday, 12 May :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

29. May 2011
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Motion : to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session.
Mover: Seconder:
Yes: No: Abstain:
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30. Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:00-18:00 Motion TGs vote:
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Motion
Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from the first recirculation Sponsor Ballot on P802.11s Draft 11.0 as contained in document 11-11/0xxxxrx,
Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 12.0 incorporating these resolutions and,
Approve a 15 days Sponsor Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11s Draft 12.0 be forwarded to ExCom”
TGs vote:
Moved:, Seconded:
Result: y-, n-, a- :
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31. Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:00-18:00 Telcons: thursdays,
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Telcons: thursdays,
Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on thursdays at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes.
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32. Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:00-18:00 Adjourn sine die
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Thursday, 12 May :00-18:00
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away
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Dee Denteneer, Philips

33. [Reference Information]
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[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet:
11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments
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34. [Reference Information]
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[Reference Information]
TGs Chairmen
Dee Denteneer,
Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), November 2009
Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009
Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009
TGs Technical Editors:
Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 …
Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02
Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0
W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)
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35. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
May 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0
November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0
November 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0
July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0
May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0
May 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0
May 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0
November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0
November 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0
November 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0
July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0
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